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Old 11-10-2014, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Lot of downtown have casinos Vegas, New Orleans, Detroit, Cincinnati, Cleveland.. they all can't be bad economy cities can they?
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Cleveland and Detroit aren't the lower Midwest and have a different dialect called inland north which is unique to the Great Lakes region dontchaknow. Milwaukee, Cleveland, Chicago and Detroit sound more like Minneapolis than the Lower Midwest. Indianapolis, Columbus, Kansas City, Cincinnati and St. Louis don't sound the same. Please quit your trolling. Your made up regional definitions and ridiculous arguments are getting quite old. Cleveland had more in common with Boston and Philadelphia than Chicago...what planet are you from? For a native Clevelander you sure don't know your own city.
Some people in Cleveland do believe this. The belief is weird to me -- being from the west side of Cleveland, I've identified more with Chicago ever since I was a kid -- but it does exist. It's not unfounded, but as another poster alluded to, it's not like people from New England didn't settle Michigan and most of Illinois and Minnesota and northern Iowa, too.

One thing Cleverfield rather amusingly doesn't understand is that Minneapolis and Saint Paul are probably more like the "northeastern" parts of Cleveland (such as Cleveland Heights) than the "midwestern" ones (such as Lakewood and Parma). The Groveland-Mac area of Saint Paul is a dead ringer for Cleveland Heights and University Heights, at least in how it looks. But in Cleverfield's addled head, these parts of Cleveland have some magic East Coast Rockefeller fairy dust that the equivalent areas in the Cities are deprived of.
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Old 11-11-2014, 07:25 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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I found a list that says Minnesota has 4 professional sports teams.
Actually, we have five (Lynx). Two of which have world championships in their hardware cases (Twins, Lynx). Soon to be six when we get an MLS team.
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Old 11-11-2014, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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Actually, we have five (Lynx). Two of which have world championships in their hardware cases (Twins, Lynx). Soon to be six when we get an MLS team.
And that's all the proof I need to why lists are useless.
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Old 11-11-2014, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Minnesotans, and upper midwesterners talk differently donchaknow. They also have very different architecture, history, and demographics than places like Cleveland, Columbus Indianapolis, Detroit, and other lower midwestern cities. Apparently cha don't know a lot about Cleveland.
All of those are Northern cities, and half of them are considered Upper Midwest cities (Chicago, Detroit, and your beloved Cleveland).
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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There ya go, some reasonable arguments, at least you didn't try to claim that Minneapolis has the best cultural attractions in the midwest.
No, YOU did....for Cleveland. We all know about Minneapolis cultural attractions, and don't have an, uh, inferiority complex regarding our "stature" in this region.
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Haha, as I suspected all along, you don't even know what the city has to offer, yet you automatically assume that your city is the best next to Chicago.

FYI, we have:

-The Rock Hall
-The Cleveland Orchestra/Severance Hall
-One of the largest, best endowed, and most thoroughly encyclopedic art museums in the country
-Playhouse Square (9 beautifully restored 1920's theaters, 2nd largest theater district in the country, now home to the world's largest outdoor chandelier)
-A science museum/NASA museum
-A natural history museum (home to scientists who discovered Lucy, as well as important dinosaur, and hominid fossils)
-The Cleveland Botanical Gardens
-Lake View Cemetary, burial place of President Garfield, John Rockefeller, and many other famous people
-Many smaller theaters scattered around the city
-A brand new museum of contemporary art
-Many ethnic enclaves, including one of the country's best Little Italys, and the ethnic food and stores that go along with them
-A WWII era submarine/museum
-A great lakes freighter turned into a museum
-The West Side Market, one of the oldest and best indoor markets in the country
-National architectural gems, such as the Terminal Tower, and the Old Arcade
-Restaurants by well-known chefs like Michael Symon, and many others
-Numerous Hollywood movies that film here each year, including major ones like The Avengers and Captain America
-3 pro sports teams that are actually entertaining to watch


The BROWNS, INDIANS and CAVS are entertaining to watch?!?!?!?! Not since I've been here (almost 4 years now).
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Well you're certainly adding to Minneapolis' reputation as the most ignorant city. Congratulations that's another ranking you can add to your collection.
That was your best argument yet! Hard to refute because there's no substance or subject-matter. Very clever!
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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The BROWNS, INDIANS and CAVS are entertaining to watch?!?!?!?! Not since I've been here (almost 4 years now).
Maybe the Cavs will be fun with LeBron back in town.
Latest rumors say that K. Love is planning on leaving already (for the Lakers). I didn't realize it until I read those articles, but LeBron can just split again after a year if it doesn't work out.
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:23 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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And that's all the proof I need to why lists are useless.

Well...in the grand scheme of this argument, it is just more proof of an economy that will support so many teams. Cleveland - not so much. Their WNBA "Rockers" didn't even last a full decade there. (I didn't even know they had an WNBA team but a Google yielded their defunct team).
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