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Old 02-22-2014, 09:19 AM
 
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I think one thing is for certain. The liberal faction has a much larger presence in just about all forms of social communication, whether it be newspapers, tv, or internet entities such as this. I mean, I read the Star Tribune and associated comment sections and wonder if there are enough conservatives in the MSP metro to count on both hands. Why this is remains beyond me. Many conservatives must be doing other stuff, I suppose.....or maybe I should be looking to suburban outlets for the conservative point of view, as many have mentioned.
It's all relative. I think of the STRIB as a big business conservative paper. Look at their massive effort to fund the new stadium (and sell off their land to developers). The St. Paul paper is even more conservative. Talk radio is extremely conservative with no liberal stations that I'm aware of. A truly liberal newspaper would not have much circulation in MSP which is why you can only find them on stacks in coffee shop entries.

My problem with politics in Minnesota is that the two main parties offer such poor choices. I'm sympathetic to the conservative economics of the Republicans, but can't stand their mean efforts to restrict marriage rights, voting rights, etc. The DFL, on the other hand tend to stay out of people's personal lives, but their economic and tax polices are loony.

I think a lot of Minnesotans think like me which explains why Jesse Ventura got elected. Liberal social values with conservative economic values is popular here.
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Downtown St. Paul
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I think a lot of Minnesotans think like me which explains why Jesse Ventura got elected. Liberal social values with conservative economic values is popular here.
Totally agree on this point.
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Old 11-15-2014, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Saint Paul, Minnesota
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Just so you know, all you people that write novel responses...nobody reads them.
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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I'm a moderate and read both papers and think the coverage is pretty evenly distributed. I think people have a hard time seeing this if they're used to coverage that advocates a specific agenda.
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:16 PM
 
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I should qualify my statement- there's a faction of conservatives that have moved away from the traditional Eisenhoewer/Goldwater/Nixon model and moved a lot further to the right. If that's your thing then I could see how the papers wouldn't seem balanced. I would argue that's trying to recalibrate traditional scales of liberalism and conservatism, but maybe that's just me.
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Old 11-28-2014, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Hayden
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I left the twin cities 30 years ago because of the constant and intense hatred of white, heterosexual men there.

Unless you're a rich, white, heterosexual man, then lots of 'nice' Minnesota females want to have your babies.

Liberalism and lunatic fringe feminism destroyed these cities. 40 and 50 years ago they were a nice place to live.
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Old 11-28-2014, 04:53 PM
 
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Do women where you moved want to have babies with poor heterosexual white men like yourself?
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Old 11-28-2014, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Just wondering. The cities can't possibly be as liberal as I see on CD or in the Star Tribune.

Can they?
Go to the outer suburbs and you'll see it isn't completely liberal.
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Old 11-28-2014, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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I left the twin cities 30 years ago because of the constant and intense hatred of white, heterosexual men there.

Unless you're a rich, white, heterosexual man, then lots of 'nice' Minnesota females want to have your babies.

Liberalism and lunatic fringe feminism destroyed these cities. 40 and 50 years ago they were a nice place to live.
Really? I left Minnesota 40 years ago because it was so conservative, it made me want to puke. Women were expected to get married and and have kids, and then stay home with those kids. I remember when girls could only wear skirts and dresses to school. As a high school senior, I wanted to learn how to work with wood. I was forced to take home ec instead. And God help you if you were different from your neighbors - ate late in the evening, came from another country, had an accent, or had dark colored skin. I still remember one of my teachers telling us that there was racism in hiring at that and other schools. African American applicants were always told the positions were "already filled"

I don't know. *shrug* I guess if you were a white male with unlimited opportunities to learn and work, with a wife to cater to your every need, it probably WAS a nice place for you then. If you were a teenage girl, like me, who wanted the opportunity to do something other than be an unpaid servant and pop out kids like there was no tomorrow, and your only job option was cooking, cleaning, and laundry, and you wanted to learn more than the sanitized crap they taught in high school and Sunday school, you went somewhere else. I went somewhere else and I never regretted it. Ever.
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Really? I left Minnesota 40 years ago because it was so conservative, it made me want to puke. Women were expected to get married and and have kids, and then stay home with those kids. I remember when girls could only wear skirts and dresses to school. As a high school senior, I wanted to learn how to work with wood. I was forced to take home ec instead. And God help you if you were different from your neighbors - ate late in the evening, came from another country, had an accent, or had dark colored skin. I still remember one of my teachers telling us that there was racism in hiring at that and other schools. African American applicants were always told the positions were "already filled"

I don't know. *shrug* I guess if you were a white male with unlimited opportunities to learn and work, with a wife to cater to your every need, it probably WAS a nice place for you then. If you were a teenage girl, like me, who wanted the opportunity to do something other than be an unpaid servant and pop out kids like there was no tomorrow, and your only job option was cooking, cleaning, and laundry, and you wanted to learn more than the sanitized crap they taught in high school and Sunday school, you went somewhere else. I went somewhere else and I never regretted it. Ever.
You may find this hard to imagine but the world's changed in 40 years, even here.
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