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Old 08-07-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I think someone was mean to him at work Now the whole city sucks.
I've seen firsthand the ugly side of Lutefisk Rage manifest itself in peculiar ways in the past
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Old 09-01-2018, 03:24 PM
 
Location: MPLS
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Hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but technically Columbus is growing faster at a rate of over 10% per decade since 1990. Minneapolis has only seen growth like that since 2010. Even so, having lived in Columbus the QOL here is much higher by any measure: mass transit, parks, lots of daily needs can be met within walking and biking distance, and most neighborhoods are in good to great shape.

Columbus annexed its sprawl and that makes for pretty numbers, but those numbers don't make most of its urban neighborhoods vibrant like Minneapolis: hemorrhaging populations from large urban neighborhoods all around downtown except for the north side is ongoing and a result of pulling public investments from the neighborhoods that need it the most and directing it to the wealthiest neighborhoods. Columbus has had most growth occuring in the Applebee's part of the city which makes up most of its whopping 220 sq mi: strip malls and suburban apartment complexes on hostile suburban style thoroughfares. This covers up the losses in the inner city. These areas also are lacking in basic amenities: sidewalks are nowhere to be found and forget about bike lanes, especially on bridges where there might not even be a tiny shoulder just lanes for 50 MPH traffic. You're lucky to have a bus show up once an hour.

Transplants seem to like having only a few good neighborhoods to bounce between, but then I grew up there and got tired of only having High St as my option for city living. They also love to complain about driving there and you'll likely see a thread on that topic on Reddit any given day. But they also seem to instantaneously adopt the regressive Columbus attitude towards pedestrians, cyclists and anyone else not in a car. It's interesting seeing it attract so much while holding steadfast to a sprawling suburban model, basically taking the total opposite of Minneapolis' approach.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus,_Ohio
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:29 PM
 
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Minneapolis has grown 10% since 2010, way faster than any decent sized Midwest city, and is pushing a density of close to 8,000 ppsm. Is it agribusiness? educated population? what's behind this?
My guess would be that more people are moving there than other places?
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Old 09-02-2018, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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As to explaining the growth: a diverse growing economy, many recreational and urban amenities and high pay with a reasonable COL. Also education: many students go to a MN college/university and then decide to stay in the state.
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Old 09-02-2018, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Earth. For now.
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Why is Minneapolis growing far better than the rest of the Midwest?


Consider this:


Minneapolis-St.Paul ranks as the #1 city in America with the highest number of Fortune 500 Corporations per capita. Let that sink in. The MSP Metro absolutely dominates the rest of the entire US in Gross Metropolitan Product (GMP) per capita. For example, Minnetonka-based United Health Care is the 13th-largest corporation on the planet, and the 5th-largest corporation in the US. They may not be as glamorous, but United Health is bigger than Amazon, AT&T or General Motors. And Cargill is the largest private corporation in America. The Twin Cities are a national powerhouse of corporate influence.

It's no wonder that white-collar workers can make salaries that are well above the national average here. 18 Fortune 500 corporations generate a helluva a lot of income. Is it any wonder that people flock to the Twin Cities for jobs?

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Old 09-02-2018, 11:19 PM
 
Location: MINNEAPOLIS, MN
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Why is Minneapolis growing far better than the rest of the Midwest?


Consider this:


Minneapolis-St.Paul ranks as the #1 city in America with the highest number of Fortune 500 Corporations per capita. Let that sink in. The MSP Metro absolutely dominates the rest of the entire US in Gross Metropolitan Product (GMP) per capita. For example, Minnetonka-based United Health Care is the 13th-largest corporation on the planet, and the 5th-largest corporation in the US. They may not be as glamorous, but United Health is bigger than Amazon, AT&T or General Motors. And Cargill is the largest private corporation in America. The Twin Cities are a national powerhouse of corporate influence.

It's no wonder that white-collar workers can make salaries that are well above the national average here. 18 Fortune 500 corporations generate a helluva a lot of income. Is it any wonder that people flock to the Twin Cities for jobs?
I think the huge med tech industry in the Twin Cities also plays a role. So does retail - Target and Best Buy are growing again.
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:27 AM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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Why is Minneapolis growing far better than the rest of the Midwest?

Consider this:

Minneapolis-St.Paul ranks as the #1 city in America with the highest number of Fortune 500 Corporations per capita. Let that sink in. The MSP Metro absolutely dominates the rest of the entire US in Gross Metropolitan Product (GMP) per capita. For example, Minnetonka-based United Health Care is the 13th-largest corporation on the planet, and the 5th-largest corporation in the US. They may not be as glamorous, but United Health is bigger than Amazon, AT&T or General Motors. And Cargill is the largest private corporation in America. The Twin Cities are a national powerhouse of corporate influence.

It's no wonder that white-collar workers can make salaries that are well above the national average here. 18 Fortune 500 corporations generate a helluva a lot of income. Is it any wonder that people flock to the Twin Cities for jobs?
Yeah, but we must slash all these onerous taxes because employers and workers are fleeing!

At least, that's what I've been hearing... for the last 30 years...
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Old 09-03-2018, 09:54 AM
 
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Why is Minneapolis growing far better than the rest of the Midwest?


Consider this:


Minneapolis-St.Paul ranks as the #1 city in America with the highest number of Fortune 500 Corporations per capita. Let that sink in. The MSP Metro absolutely dominates the rest of the entire US in Gross Metropolitan Product (GMP) per capita. For example, Minnetonka-based United Health Care is the 13th-largest corporation on the planet, and the 5th-largest corporation in the US. They may not be as glamorous, but United Health is bigger than Amazon, AT&T or General Motors. And Cargill is the largest private corporation in America. The Twin Cities are a national powerhouse of corporate influence.

It's no wonder that white-collar workers can make salaries that are well above the national average here. 18 Fortune 500 corporations generate a helluva a lot of income. Is it any wonder that people flock to the Twin Cities for jobs?
And it doesn't hurt that MSP' s cost of living is still very moderate, esp when compared to the coasts...
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Why is Minneapolis growing far better than the rest of the Midwest?


Consider this:


Minneapolis-St.Paul ranks as the #1 city in America with the highest number of Fortune 500 Corporations per capita. Let that sink in. The MSP Metro absolutely dominates the rest of the entire US in Gross Metropolitan Product (GMP) per capita. For example, Minnetonka-based United Health Care is the 13th-largest corporation on the planet, and the 5th-largest corporation in the US. They may not be as glamorous, but United Health is bigger than Amazon, AT&T or General Motors. And Cargill is the largest private corporation in America. The Twin Cities are a national powerhouse of corporate influence.

It's no wonder that white-collar workers can make salaries that are well above the national average here. 18 Fortune 500 corporations generate a helluva a lot of income. Is it any wonder that people flock to the Twin Cities for jobs?
Where are you finding that MSP destroys all other metros for GDP/capita?
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Isanti County, Minnesota
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And it doesn't hurt that MSP' s cost of living is still very moderate, esp when compared to the coasts...
Yes it is. I personally think this area is the best value going of anywhere I've lived, which includes Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta, Boston, Dallas/Ft. Worth, and Houston. It's not perfect, but it's a close as we're going to get for what we need/like as a family. We just bought a home and are planting ourselves here.
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