But will Trump pay the bill? (Minneapolis, Edina: house, taxes, cost of)

[skeddy]

President Barack Obama’s campaign committee did not always pay municipal police bills when local governments wanted, and in at least one reported case, ignored a large bill, arguing that it wasn’t responsible for the costs. Obama’s campaign committee officially shut down in July 2018 without reporting any remaining debt. Federal records do indicate that Obama’s campaign paid some local government entities — from the City of Hollywood, Florida, to the Pittsburgh Bureau of Police — for “security” costs over the years.

Others never pay. Numerous city officials told the Center for Public Integrity that, over the years, they’ve billed both Democratic and Republican candidates for police costs only to be ignored.

Trump...Trump ... Trump lol

[Cruz Azul Guy]

I think if the city is concerned that added security bills won’t be paid they should either ask for payment up-front or decline the request for additional security. Done! Time to move on.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

I think if the city is concerned that added security bills won’t be paid they should either ask for payment up-front or decline the request for additional security. Done! Time to move on.

Good point. You are spewing a massive amount of common sense: either pay in advance of kick them to the curb! Because if you get a signed contract, they still won't pay.

"The March 18 contract signed by then-Trump Campaign Manager Corey Lewandowski and Tucson Convention Center General Manager Glenn Grabski stipulated that the Trump campaign was financially responsible for “security, crowd and traffic personnel” that convention center staff deemed necessary. The contract also stated that convention center staff reserved the right to “increase or change its security arrangements” — and that the Trump campaign “shall promptly comply with such request” and pay any additional fees."

Nope! Trump's attorney later wrote a letter and he refused to pay. Read https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com...ills/96447570/

And before someone assumes that The Green Bay Press Gazette, is a "liberal", read the article. They explain Cities are equally interested in getting reimbursed for Sander's, Clinton, and others.

Forgetting that for a moment, who the Hell would wait in line to worship our p_ssy-grabbing, narcissistic President for one of his "rallies"? Obviously the stands will contain several God fearing evangelicals who are a bunch of hypocrites. Before anyone thinks I'm "liberal" (which has multiple accurate viewpoints just as the republicans do), in the spirit of full disclosure, I've never voted for a democrat in my entire life. No, I didn't vote for Hillary. But I can call it like I see it without wrapping myself around a party and rally.

So we are clear, I think Trump has a lot of great policies (and some not so great). I've benefited big time. But the guy is a massive jerk and an embarrassment to his family, country, and himself.

[snebarekim]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

I think if the city is concerned that added security bills won’t be paid they should either ask for payment up-front or decline the request for additional security. Done! Time to move on.

Excellent!

If they dont open a fiscal line ahead of time for direct reimbursement, the reach ahead security folks of the visiting politico will start to squirm pretty quick when a city states they will provide no services until payment is made.

Especially for politicians who are campaigning, or already elected politicians who are visiting areas out of their jurisdiction.

[Glenfield]

For my “fiscally conservative” C-D friends:

Let’s say you decide to run for the Library Board. You invite a few friends over to an event at the local VFW where you have invited an author to speak. Some people find this author controversial and plan to picket your event. You get a few anonymous threats, so you alert the police. Word gets out on social media and the police feel the protest could be quite large, so they send a few officers over to keep things in line. A few months later, you get a bill from the city for security costs.

Do you pay?

[TwinsFan1975]

Welcome to Minneapolis, Mr. President. I thank you for coming, as does my hugely increased 401K.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by TwinsFan1975

Welcome to Minneapolis, Mr. President. I thank you for coming, as does my hugely increased 401K.

Got it!

Originally Posted by TwinsFan1975

Welcome, Mr. President. I (and my hugely increased 401K) will proudly vote for you again next year, when you win Minnesota.

So your "hugely increased 401K" is specifically because of "Mr. President"? So during the Clinton stock run-up, was he the reason too? It has nothing to do with world pent-up demand because of the loooooong crash? Nothing to do with printing money? Nothing to do with the Fed keeping interest rates artificially low which drives up people putting $$'s in the market?

My point is, I like a lot of the things that this President is doing. But he is still a jerk, loud mouth, and _________. Not exactly someone I would go see at a rally. YMMV. I'll give him 10%-20% credit for the stock run-up. When the stock market goes up, my rich customers are richer and they p_ss away money like water. I am at 70 hours a week lately, raking in the $$'s. Those hours kind of suck. But I guess I will take the trade-off.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by Glenfield

For my “fiscally conservative” C-D friends:

Let’s say you decide to run for the Library Board. You invite a few friends over to an event at the local VFW where you have invited an author to speak. Some people find this author controversial and plan to picket your event. You get a few anonymous threats, so you alert the police. Word gets out on social media and the police feel the protest could be quite large, so they send a few officers over to keep things in line. A few months later, you get a bill from the city for security costs.

Do you pay?

In the spirit of being consistent, of course. Personally, I pay attention to $$'s when there are zero's attached. It seems the cities use this approach too. What you described is small potatoes in comparison.

That all said, if it impacted my budget (a small town for instance), I'd tell them to use technology and skip the personal visit because it is too expensive for them to personally visit.

[atler8]

Originally Posted by TwinsFan1975

Welcome to Minneapolis, Mr. President. I thank you for coming, as does my hugely increased 401K.

Could it be that you have a case of selectively giving credit for your 401K? What happened to it's value from Jan. 2009- Jan. 2017?

In looking back at the history of my 401K, the GREATEST increase in value occurred during the recovery of the economy & the stock market during the 8 years of the Obama Administration.

Looking at my own statements, the value of my account has been a whipsaw of extreme irregularity in the the last year and a half & it's value is treading water at this time.
In view of the growing threats to the market, I am actively in consideration of temporarily moving much of my 401K & IRA portfolios into safer avenues of investment for the near future.

As for tRUMP paying his bills, good luck on that Minneapolis! Why would we expect him to do so as President given his wretched business practices & reputation through his long-time history as a business man & casino operator in New York & in New Jersey? He went bankrupt more than once & thus avoided paying debts.
Another tack taken by him was to counter-sue & tie up the legal process if someone sued him for payment. As a "wealthy" individual, tRUMP has always been able to afford layers upons layers of lawyers operating on his behalf so as to clog up the legal system in order to benefit him & protect him from paying his debts.
I know of a retired man near me who was a crane operator in New York City. tRUMP owed him $16,000 for work he did for the tRUMP companies. He will never see that money owed to him because tRUMP declared a bankruptcy and the court proceedings designed to get the payment were thus nullified. So much for the oft-ballyhooed idea that he is a "successful" businessman. Truly upstanding business people DO NOT go to bankruptcy more than once! The folks in the Tri-State area of NY, NJ & Ct. know full well of his wretched record as a businessman in that region!

A precept for all of us to keep in mind should be that the oath taken by any president on Inauguration Day to uphold the Constitution is of FAR MORE importance than any one single individual holding the office at a given time or his/her political party or whether they are a liberal or a conservative. I came to understand that fully during Watergate & I suggest that it would do us well to think in those terms at this point in time.

Good luck to Minneapolis in ever seeing any compensation!

[TwinsFan1975]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

Got it!


So your "hugely increased 401K" is specifically because of "Mr. President"? So during the Clinton stock run-up, was he the reason too? It has nothing to do with world pent-up demand because of the loooooong crash? Nothing to do with printing money? Nothing to do with the Fed keeping interest rates artificially low which drives up people putting $$'s in the market?

My point is, I like a lot of the things that this President is doing. But he is still a jerk, loud mouth, and _________. Not exactly someone I would go see at a rally. YMMV. I'll give him 10%-20% credit for the stock run-up. When the stock market goes up, my rich customers are richer and they p_ss away money like water. I am at 70 hours a week lately, raking in the $$'s. Those hours kind of suck. But I guess I will take the trade-off.

Got it. So why are you complaining?