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Old 07-13-2009, 10:09 AM
 
Location: MN
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I typically bounce around between Pioneer and the Trib. They are both first class news papers, and both do an excelleny job. The trib covers MPLS and west metro and PP covers STP and East metro... I like em both
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Mahtomedi, MN
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The future seems rather dim for many newspapers if not all. The Trib is on very shaky ground right now. They keep cutting resources which errodes the quality of local news, which makes less people want to pay for it, which reduces advertising revenue, which makes them cut more resources ....

It does not help that news you read in today's paper is stuff you saw on the TV last night or heard on the radio this morning. I see no point to subscribe to a paper that is largely reprinting AP aricles and various entertainment content that is more or less free online.

The one exception might be local sports. You won't hear scores and High School sports on the radio much and coverage on local news is less important that who got elimated form American Idol.

As a whole, our media is in a sad state.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:48 AM
 
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They're both pretty bad. The Star seems little more successful, but the Star Tribune is known nationally as one of the more inferior papers. They're extremely liberal (most papers are), and I don't believe a writer has ever won a pulitzer prize while employed there.
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:34 PM
 
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They're both pretty bad. The Star seems little more successful, but the Star Tribune is known nationally as one of the more inferior papers. They're extremely liberal (most papers are), and I don't believe a writer has ever won a pulitzer prize while employed there.
Do you have any sources for all these claims you've made?
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:43 PM
 
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Read a couple columns by Katherine Kersten and you won't think the Star Tribune is so liberal.

They have/had some great writers (although I don't think Kersen is one of them, and not just because of her ciews) but the cuts have really made an impact, and not for the better.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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They're both pretty bad. The Star seems little more successful, but the Star Tribune is known nationally as one of the more inferior papers. They're extremely liberal (most papers are), and I don't believe a writer has ever won a pulitzer prize while employed there.
You obviously are not familiar (probably haven't read more than the help-wanted or comics pages) with the Minneapolis paper or you would not referred to it as the "Star", which ceased running decades ago.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:57 AM
 
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Politically, the two seem to balance each other out. We get the PP because we live in St Paul and I think they do a better job of covering St Paul city news than does the Strib. But I like the Strib better. They seem to have more features and more substance. The PP these days is not much bigger than the Villager, our neighborhood rag!
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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I like the Strib. It works better as garden mulch.

In all seriousness, I stopped taking the paper about 5 years ago. I was tired of seeing "editorials" on the front page. I want them to report the news and leave their opinions at the door.
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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I fear it will be the Star that will go down based on rumors. Unless we pay bucks at Barnes and Noble or Schindlers for the New York Times or its like, we will be news-starved.
Wow. I haven't subscribed to a paper newspaper for years. It's too much bother when I can just pop online with my web tablet and read the news from anywhere on the web ... including the StarTrib and Pioneer Press web sites.

For me it isn't the cost ... it's the need to dispose of the old papers that finally drove me away.
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:44 PM
 
Location: MN
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I like the Strib. It works better as garden mulch.

In all seriousness, I stopped taking the paper about 5 years ago. I was tired of seeing "editorials" on the front page. I want them to report the news and leave their opinions at the door.

Couldnt agree more.

Sadly were are in a world of transition, and have been for quite some time... The Paper actually used to be the Star and Trib. One for morning news, one for evening news...The TV nightly news killed that..ANd now interent, social networking, and other up-to-date news can serve a much better purpose, for free, immediately, without the hogwash and stupid opinions from glorified staff writers who got lit degrees at a community college.... The newspaper is a dying situation...Ads are slimming, and all newspapers are cutting costs. Nobody wants them... I think USA TODAY and NYTIMES are going to become more standard for a national news, and seeing regional, smaller newspapers die.

Anyone in DUluth can tell you how bad the paper is there...for a region of 200,000 people and fairly dependent region it is, the paper is about as thick as a magazine.
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