08-19-2010, 05:15 PM
Location: Home in NOMI
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"Minnesota Nice" is a common form of passive aggressive behavior, where the perpetrator will not speak directly about an issue of concern with you, but WILL speak to others about you. Example:
"You OK with this?"
"Yeah, it's fine"
"Are you SURE? I need your agreement and commitment here."
"Yeah, I'm on board. Sure."
- then, with his pals -
"You wouldn't believe what that pr!ck wants to do...!!!"
As opposed to my experience in Washington DC a few years ago - where people are in your face - but you know where they're coming from.
08-19-2010, 05:19 PM
Location: MN
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^ very true, although not everyone in MN is like this. I used to be very "Minnesotan" (passive aggressive) and then I moved to the west coast for a while and realized how big of a joke it is to hold yourself back from people. I just realized this now, but since "losing" the passive aggresiveness I seem to be a happier person. It took a lot of work to stop holding myself back from people, but I'm glad I changed that. I'm not really sure if those things have any correlation to eachother, but it's very possible.
08-19-2010, 05:24 PM
Location: MINNESOTA
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"Minnesota Nice" is a common form of passive aggressive behavior, where the perpetrator will not speak directly about an issue of concern with you, but WILL speak to others about you. Example:
"You OK with this?"
"Yeah, it's fine"
"Are you SURE? I need your agreement and commitment here."
"Yeah, I'm on board. Sure."
- then, with his pals -
"You wouldn't believe what that pr!ck wants to do...!!!"
As opposed to my experience in Washington DC a few years ago - where people are in your face - but you know where they're coming from.
Exactly. This is what I despise about Minnesota.
Example from me: At work here these 3 people sat and talked with me how annoyed they are by somebody, and that they
did not want to go to a particular establishment after work.... A few hrs later the same person they were annoyed by approached us and said "Hey guys still wanna go to ____ tonight?" and the 3 that just complained put on some fake smiles and had some BS reply with "Yeah, sure, we'll meet ya there!".... and when she walked away the 3 people were like "Gosh, I so don't want to go"
It's like are you kidding me? If you don't want to go, say no!
Same thing happens with others. I'll ask people "Hey, do you wanna go do this on Thursday?" and they'll give some passive response like "Ya sure, call me and we'll figure it out".... Um no idiot, I want to figure it out now, that's why I'm asking you... now... and then you go to call the person on Thursday and they dont answer or return texts.... and then you ask them later on and they say "Oh shoot, yeah, something happened"...
Its like ok, if you did not want to do it, you could have said "No, I dont want to" and It would not have hurt me what so ever...
This is my mentality and I believe it's like this all around the country but besides here. I just can't believe how many times people cannot commit to things, it's weird.
I think it gets me in trouble, since to these passive aggressive MNs think I'm so harsh. I just give straight up answers. Like the otherday. I was with friends and another couple came over and asked "Do you guys want to go get lunch here???" and I straight up said "No". And they all took it as some defensive attack on my part.... No, I dont really want to go. Would you rather have me ho and hum and give you a fake answer.
I really think it goes back to the MN Nice. MN's try sooOOoooOoooOoo hard to impress and make everyone happy that they cannot be straight forward with you so it comes off as being cold.
08-19-2010, 05:27 PM
Location: MINNESOTA
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^ very true, although not everyone in MN is like this. I used to be very "Minnesotan" (passive aggressive) and then I moved to the west coast for a while and realized how big of a joke it is to hold yourself back from people. I just realized this now, but since "losing" the passive aggresiveness I seem to be a happier person. It took a lot of work to stop holding myself back from people, but I'm glad I changed that. I'm not really sure if those things have any correlation to eachother, but it's very possible.
I disagree. I think it's amplified in the TC.
Like people who complain about their neighbors yards. They'll call the City and complain but can't walk over to the neighbor and say "hey, i really respect my lawn and work hard on it, could you please keep up with your lawn?"
08-19-2010, 09:14 PM
Location: Twin Cities
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I moved here from L.A. 5 years ago. I LOVE it here and would NEVER move back to Southern California...for every reason you listed. It did take me a couple years to make friends...I think people tend to be a little "clique-y" here? Most have lived here their whole lives and have a tight knit friend/family circle (generally speaking). When I lived in California (lived there my entire life), I was a bit more reserved than most. Moving here I had to FORCE my self to open up more and really TRY to make friends....because I think people are WAY more reserved here. I joined a couple clubs (running club, meetup.org groups, etc) and now I have the BEST group of friends. And (I hate to say this) but I think the friendships I made here are more genuine than they were in L.A? I think the difference is that in L.A. people are VERY transient...moving into the state, moving out or to another town. People don't stay put as much...so I think there's almost a "disposable" or superficial feeling about some friendships (VERY generally speaking...I have some great friends out there too). But here, I have more of a feeling that my friendships could last forever (where I didn't feel that in L.A.).
I DO think this is a cosmopolitan city and some areas definitely have a "college town" vibe. Another city I love in the midwest that you might want to consider is Madison, WI. It kind of reminds me of a smaller Minneapolis...definitely a college town and very friendly people (a little less reserved than Minnesotans for whatever reason).
08-19-2010, 10:12 PM
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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audadvnc
"Minnesota Nice" is a common form of passive aggressive behavior, where the perpetrator will not speak directly about an issue of concern with you, but WILL speak to others about you. Example:
I've always thought it had more to do with people being willing to help almost anyone when someone is in need (when a car slides off the road, for example).
Not much class in talking behind a person's back ... if you cross my path and create an issue of some kind, don't expect to get away unchallenged.
Maybe it's a Scandinavian thing, which I'm not, but I grew up and lived in the SW TC suburbs for 40 years, and I'm not dissimilar from my friends and family up there. Of course, we're not as "in your face" as some folks I've met from the east coast or even Chicago, so maybe it's a matter of degree?
08-19-2010, 10:13 PM
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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I disagree. I think it's amplified in the TC.
Like people who complain about their neighbors yards. They'll call the City and complain but can't walk over to the neighbor and say "hey, i really respect my lawn and work hard on it, could you please keep up with your lawn?"
Same thing happens here in Atlanta, perhaps more so, but it's usually the HOA that gets the complaints.
08-20-2010, 12:54 AM
Location: Houston, TX
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I think that the people are not outwardly 'hi how are you' friendly but they are willing to help if you have a problem. People here warm up to you slowly. Minnesotans aren't used to 'different' folks. I joke that when growing up diversity was Lutheran and Catholic. Most folks were between upper middle and lower middle class.
08-22-2010, 09:51 AM
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I grew up in Minnesota, in a small little town not too far from the cities, and have lived in Minneapolis for the better part of the past 10 years. I'm not sure about the entire 'MN nice' thing though. Overall I have found most Minnesotans to be laid back, approachable people. When times are tough, or a big snow storm hits, people will generally be helpful towards each other and everyone seems super sensitive to not offending another person or stepping on each others toes. This, however, can have a down side. Sometimes it's really hard to get an honest read of someone, especially if they might not like you. I have often found with Minnesotans a tendancy to give you a nice, friendly face and then stab you in the back when you turn around. Not an entirely hostile thing, its just that people are often too focused on being (or at least seeming for their own sake) polite. I've traveled around a lot and have found many, many places where people have been more friendly, outwardly warm, and HONEST about how they feel. There aren't a lot of bold individualists here either; if people are on the 'fringe' they do it like others. Anyways, there are much worse places in the this world to live.
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People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)