08-06-2007, 08:31 PM
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Hello all-
It has been a while since I posted. We are relocating from Austin, Texas. WE looked in Eden Prairie nad Minnetonka and have settled on the Apple Valley/Lakeville/Rosemount area because of what you can get for your money.
I wanted to pick everyone's brains about specific neighborhood locations in these areas. We would like to spend between 280-320,000 for a home. The relocation is a temporary one. We will probably be there anywhere form 3-5 years so re-sale is VERY IMPORTANT to us. I would like to get into an area that I know will at least maintain value. I know there are NO guarantees in realty, but any advice on how you have seen areas do in the past or their reputation would be great.
When I was looking at homes I found an established neighborhood that was in our price range by Cherry View Elementary. Some of the homes are in Lakeville, others are in Apple Valley. Some of the street names in this neighborhood are 174 St. W, 175th St. W, Havelock Way, Hamilton, and Highview Ave. It looks like it is a few streets over from Crystal Lakes Golf Course. I also am seeing listings boasting of being located in Palamiono Hills? Any thoughts on these two ares? Any suggestions for other specific neighborhoods that are considered prime time in our price range? Rosemount is not out of the question, it just seems like we are finding more homes in our price range in Lakeville.
Thanks in advance for the help and advice.
08-07-2007, 05:37 AM
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My take on the situation is that Apple Valley is the most developed of the 3 cities you mentioned. In 5 years there won't be much new construction therefore existing houses will be in more demand. Lakeville is still booming AND the taxes are high and going up with the demand for new schools. Rosemount is planning another huge housing development over the next 10 years or so which means existing homes are not going to be in a big of a demand.
The Crystal Lake area is very convenient to 35W but it also limits your commute options to a point. If the Palomino Hills area is the one in Apple Valley, that is a very prime location because of the easy access to Cedar Ave. I am surprised that Lakeville has more houses in your price range then Apple Valley and Rosemount since it tends to be more expensive there. Keep an eye on property taxes though, a less expensive house in Lakeville might end up costing more in taxes.
08-07-2007, 11:42 AM
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I think resale would be better in Hennepin County. You may get slightly less house, but Eden Prairie and Minnetonka have no new growth that you will have to be competing with in a few years. Lakeville is growing like a weed, it is harder to sell a house when brand-new ones are being built a mile down the road. Eden Prairie in particular, is popular with transplants. There is a reason for that. It may not have as much impact on Apple Valley, but it would be worried for you if you shoot for Lakeville and Rosemount. Minnetonka is an established neighborhood, the area around Cherry View is not. I know for fact that there is new development down Highview. My two cents. Good Luck
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08-07-2007, 08:42 PM
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I agree with your concerns regarding all the new neighborhoods going up in Lakeville and Rosemount. Lakeville gained an estimated 8,000 people from 2000 to 2005, with its current population expected to double to over 100,000 by 2025. Rosemount is also seeing feverish growth, as it went from under 15,000 people to over 20,000 people in only the last six years. Apple Valley does not see much new construction (it is about 90% developed), but there is some land ripe for subdivision development in the far southeastern side of Apple Valley. Like you wrote, there are no guarantees in real estate.
There are some cheaper sides of Lakeville. One area in northeastern Lakeville, bordering Farmington and Apple Valley, looks like a further extension of Apple Valley, but you are further from major highways and the grass is less green. (Apple Valley hasn't restricted watering until recently because of the lack of rainfall--Lakeville restricts watering all summer.
) The other cheaper side of Lakeville is in the older side of town, near downtown Lakeville. You are another 10-15 minutes further from work there and the houses are older. Both of these areas are fairly close to new development, possibly explaining why the values are lower.
Generally, Rosemount is cheaper than Lakeville because it is further from limited-access highways, but this does not necessarily correspond to a longer commute. Nothing in Rosemount is far from new construction so that is a factor. School bonding issues always seem to pass in Independent School District 196 (Rosemount-Apple Valley-Eagan), so the schools should continue to be solid. Unless prices of raw housing materials go through the roof, new construction should be a concern because there is nothing geographically to halt more housing.
Some sections of Apple Valley are closer to new construction than others. I think that Palomino Hills carries such a good reputation, in part, because of the multi-million-dollar homes that oversee the Minnesota River Valley. (For appreciation purposes, who wouldn't want to locate to a neighborhood near million-dollar homes?) The highway access is good in the Palomino Hills neighborhood, but you can potentially get some highway noise in this area. Interstate 35E and Highway 77 don't see much traffic past evening rush hour, so that would limit the road noise. Other neighborhoods not likely to see depreciation are the neighborhoods near Long Lake and Farquar Lake. These areas tend to have larger lots, good road access, good schools, all with a more rural feel.
Of course, I have an interest in my house appreciating too. I'm hoping that the new Super Target and smaller retail areas near Cobblestone Lake will help boost property values in my neighborhood. (Super Target doesn't count as economic development, does it?
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08-08-2007, 08:29 PM
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Thanks for all the help!
While we are house hunting I will keep all of the insider scoop in mind!
08-09-2007, 10:17 PM
Location: Lakeville, MN - 4th nicest place in the nation to raise a family
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I'm amazed at the good advice in this thread - way to go guys!
Right now 275K-325K can buy a nice home in Lakeville. Obviously, what you need in a home will determine an awful lot too.
I'm a big fan of the Cherry View neighborhood. The homes are newer but just different enough that your guests won't walk into your neighbor's house by mistake. There are lots of families, kids, and more kids. Great place.
We've actually sold a bunch of homes south of Lakeville this past year that struck me as good deals. 4 bed 3 bath 2800sqft homes were selling for somewhere in the low 300K's. That's awesome.
Of the towns you've mentioned, my hat's off to the others - Lakeville is probably the best bet. Cherryview neighborhood is 5 minutes from I-35 and 10 minutes from I-35 if you stop for coffee first.
I've got lots of pictures of the Cherryview neighborhood and parks - let me know if you'd like me to pass them along. Good luck with your search!!
Robert
08-12-2007, 09:20 PM
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The Cherry View neighborhood was definitely one of my favorites. It seemed to be very quaint and well kept. It also seemed to have a little more character than some of the other neighborhoods. Do you feel like this would be a good place to buy as far as resale goes?
Also - Is there a restaurant in this area that specializes in "home-cooking"? Coming from Texas we have quite a few. Something like a Marie Callenders. Roast, Chicken Fried Steak, Mashed Potatos, Gravy, Rolls...that sort of thing. I haven't been able to find much along these lines. We did try Old Chicago and thought it was pretty good.
08-12-2007, 09:48 PM
Location: Lakeville, MN - 4th nicest place in the nation to raise a family
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Not only is Cherry View a strong neighborhood, resale-wise (actually, it is strong in most every way I can think of) - I know of several homes which are not currently for sale but the owners are indeed willing to sell. I know most everyone - it's fun.
Home cooking? We have a Cracker Barrel about 5-7 minutes from Cherry View. Here at the house, we do a mean redeye gravy, amazing fried chicken (we fry in lard), and french fries that make me teary. When you're in town, you'll have to stop by for dinner!
Robert
09-03-2007, 10:27 PM
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Move a little farther south
We currently live in Owatonna and I drive 70 miles north for work. Yes it's a long commute but we bought 2700 sqft house for 150k about 4 years ago so I don't mind the drive. A friend of mine just built a brand new house here for 350k and got almost 5000 sq ft. The place is huge but he sold his other house northern suburb, which was much smaller, for the same price.
My point being in 3-5 more years the area between Lakeville and Burnsville will be a giant mess whereas our little town is growing but much slower.
Good luck. About twice a year I try to convince my wife to move a bit farther north but when we go house hunting we immediately turn around.
04-17-2008, 06:38 AM
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Another transplant
Well good morning everyone! We too are being transferred to Minnesota from New Jersey. I've gotten alot of useful information by reading these posts so thank you all so much. We first went househunting there 2 weeks ago, and decided that Lakeville would be the town for us. It seems to be very family friendly with alot of kids. We have 3 kids and our #1 priority is a good school. While researching, it seemed ISD 194 & 196 topped the list. So we went from there. My first choice was Cobblestone Lake in Apple Valley. The neighborhood looks like something from a movie. It's beautifully kept, and so quaint. That being said, the houses are on the smaller side and don't have much of a yard. We then looked at the Cherryview area and fell in love. We felt like we were home in that neighborhood. We will be moving into that area in July and we're all looking forward to it.
By the way, living in New Jersey my whole life I was a little nervous about the move initially. After coming out there to visit, I felt welcomed and comfortable. Everyone is so friendly and laid back there. People in New Jersey tend to be a rush all the time and don't always take a moment to enjoy all life's blessings. So Thank You Minnesota, can't wait to call you home.
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People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)