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Old 08-07-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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Actually, if you know the state well, the vast majority of the unserved areas are unpopulated--big difference. The vast majority of the unserved areas in MN are in the national/state park areas where no one lives or VERY few live.
I guess I'm talking more about unserved people, not area. There are swaths of southwest and southeast Minnesota that lack much service. These aren't new areas waiting for lines to be installed.

The towns of Magnolia, Adrian, Lismore, Wilmont, Kenneth, Leota, Edgerton, Rushmore, Steen, Iona, Avoca, Dovray, Ruthton, Holland, Florence, Comfrey, Darfur, Rushford, etc. all have no access that even advertises 3Mbps.
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Old 08-07-2011, 04:34 PM
 
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I guess I'm talking more about unserved people, not area. There are swaths of southwest and southeast Minnesota that lack much service. These aren't new areas waiting for lines to be installed.

The towns of Magnolia, Adrian, Lismore, Wilmont, Kenneth, Leota, Edgerton, Rushmore, Steen, Iona, Avoca, Dovray, Ruthton, Holland, Florence, Comfrey, Darfur, Rushford, etc. all have no access that even advertises 3Mbps.
Well, considering I know people that live in many of these areas that seem to have internet access I would say that you are wrong. Many of these areas are serviced by Frontier and have high speed DSL. Other parts of this area you listed are serviced by Prairiewave/Knology cable and DSL (which is BY FAR the best cable/internet provider we ever had-wish they would move here).
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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I guess I'm talking more about unserved people, not area. There are swaths of southwest and southeast Minnesota that lack much service. These aren't new areas waiting for lines to be installed.

The towns of Magnolia, Adrian, Lismore, Wilmont, Kenneth, Leota, Edgerton, Rushmore, Steen, Iona, Avoca, Dovray, Ruthton, Holland, Florence, Comfrey, Darfur, Rushford, etc. all have no access that even advertises 3Mbps.
I've been to most of those towns, and all of them are very, very rural. Florence only has about 60 people, and Ruthton and Leota don't have many more than that. I do think Knology covers these areas with cable and high-speed internet, though. I know they have a big operation out of Marshall that covers most of SW Minnesota. If not, dial-up or 3G tethering is always an option.
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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"The obvious connection is wanting to be near leisure activities lends itself to living in cities"

Huh???? Wha????? I so strongly disagree!!!

It depends on who is defining the term "leisure activities"

I do enjoy periodic exposure to High Culcha, but there are so many more options for true "leisure" in the country. There's the in-town stuff - the library, plays, the art center, lectures at the community college, shopping - and there's also the great outdoors! From the back door of my little house in northen MN I can WALK to areas where I can snowshoe, ski, hike, swim, garden, and bike, in addition to the stuff I don't like to do such as fishing and hunting.

In cities one generally has to DRIVE, sometimes great distances, to find places to enjoy leisure.
I agree. Living in an urban area is only beneficial for certain leisure activities - which seem to be the only ones some people know - while living in a rural area (at least in Minnesota) is optimal for many others, probably even more than the city.

Amateur radio (because of the space required for towers and antennas), car collecting, gardening, and hobby farming are some of the more obvious ones. Several motorized activities are also best practiced in rural areas: four-wheeling, snowmobiling, dirt biking, hunting, fishing, mud bogging, etc. "Back in the day" we had up to seven ATVs and four snowmobiles, and could ride them right from our houses onto "unofficial" (but legal) trails. Barhopping, clubbing, eating out in fancy restaurants, or the theater are only a small portion of recreation.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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I agree. Living in an urban area is only beneficial for certain leisure activities - which seem to be the only ones some people know - while living in a rural area (at least in Minnesota) is optimal for many others, probably even more than the city.

Amateur radio (because of the space required for towers and antennas), car collecting, gardening, and hobby farming are some of the more obvious ones. Several motorized activities are also best practiced in rural areas: four-wheeling, snowmobiling, dirt biking, hunting, fishing, mud bogging, etc. "Back in the day" we had up to seven ATVs and four snowmobiles, and could ride them right from our houses onto "unofficial" (but legal) trails. Barhopping, clubbing, eating out in fancy restaurants, or the theater are only a small portion of recreation.
And even these are available in may rural areas/towns . Actually, our "city" friends prefered to go bar hopping in our town because a pitcher of beer was only $3. You can't even get a GLASS for that most places in the metro area.
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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And even these are available in may rural areas/towns . Actually, our "city" friends prefered to go bar hopping in our town because a pitcher of beer was only $3. You can't even get a GLASS for that most places in the metro area.
True, especially barhoppping. Though I don't think many pretentious "hip" urbanites would be caught dead in a rural bar unless they were "slumming" it or trying to be ironic. (Granted, I wouldn't either)
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