11-30-2012, 10:26 AM
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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So this is just for fun (you like fun, right?) I am just wondering if we partitioned off us (MN) and the Dakotas could we viably be a country?
//pics3.city-data.com/forum/ We produced more wheat than any place on the planet not long ago//pics3.city-data.com/forum/
We produced much of the iron America used to fight WWII from the Iron Range
We have the most important inland freshwater ports on the continent on the North Shore//pics3.city-data.com/forum/
We are one of the best educated state's in America - we have some of the best and innovative international companies in the world here as well
Again, have fun with it. Not meant to incite or insinuate I would advocate this - of course it would never happen anyway. Economics majors replies would be interesting, so, have at it...
11-30-2012, 10:28 AM
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Sorry for the bad point presentation.
11-30-2012, 10:28 AM
Location: Northern MN
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Why?
11-30-2012, 10:31 AM
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We have all of those things because we are part of the United States. If we succeed from the Union, the Mississippi and other rivers would be closed at the border, Lake Superior would be closed at the entrance in MI. There goes our free shipping channels
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11-30-2012, 10:44 AM
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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snofarmer
Why?
A little hypersensitive?
Can't say even the SLIGHTEST politically incorrect thing 'round these parts - EVEN JUST FOR THE FUN OF THE THOUGHT OF IT - without someone getting their feelings hurt. Sheesh.
11-30-2012, 10:47 AM
Location: Bel Air, California
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New Germany
this is a great idea, I'm pretty sure we still got a few of those ICBM's stashed underneath some of those haystacks out in the Dakotas...that alone would ensure that the rest of the US sends us lots and lots of foreign aid so that we don't do anything
CRAZY
I'm also pretty sure we'd have a chance to win a trophy case full of national sports championships as an added benefit.
11-30-2012, 10:55 AM
Location: Northern MN
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Lake superior would still be open to all.
Our border is no where near the canal/locks and it extends into lake superior in only a small area of the lake
It is already international waters, we share it with Canada.
Our state ling goes from Duluth up the north shore to Isle Royale.
we have a smaller chunk than WI or MI or Canada.
See that line that goes up the north shore and ends by Isle Royale.
that is our border/state line
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Lake Superior would be closed at the entrance in MI. There goes our free shipping channels
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11-30-2012, 11:00 AM
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We'd have oil
11-30-2012, 11:00 AM
Location: Northern MN
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Well because, this topic has been popular all over the forum, kicked like a dead horse and it is just a bunch of dreaming and chest pounding.
What a fun place it would be if we all agreed all of the time,
but that's not realistic.
The only one with hurt feelings is you because I didn't agree with you.
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Govie
A little hypersensitive?
Can't say even the SLIGHTEST politically incorrect thing 'round these parts - EVEN JUST FOR THE FUN OF THE THOUGHT OF IT - without someone getting their feelings hurt. Sheesh.
11-30-2012, 11:15 AM
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
snofarmer
Well because, this topic has been popular all over the forum, kicked like a dead horse and it is just a bunch of dreaming and chest pounding.
What a fun place it would be if we all agreed all of the time,
but that's not realistic.
The only one with hurt feelings is you because I didn't agree with you.
Not really. I think I've agreed with you on some issues 'round here (maybe not?) but why when someone opens a thread the first knee-jerk thing people tend to hear is "close it"? That's childish, IMO.
That's my only issue. Mods can see fit to do so (you are not a mod). At least you see that, yes, this discussion is going on on other parts of the 'Net.
My thought was could we do it and make it a
healthy (smaller) economy on this continent...It's an interesting thought at least to me.
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Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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