What are the snowbirding rules to avoid paying Minnesota state income taxes? (Dakota: how much, home)

[davephan]

Originally Posted by Thedosius

Sounds like a justification for being selfish and not giving back when you have the ability to do so.

Give back to who? I put in the effort to educate myself in a high rate of return career, and paid for it myself. Of course, there's some luck, not running against a debilitating decline in health. Most people limit their own futures. Many people just do the easy majors in college, so they don't have to work hard, and they can either party or goof off, instead of concentrating how to get ahead in life.

[southminneapolitan]

Originally Posted by Gerania

You were lucky. Yes, lucky. You didn't have to spend your retirement money trying to save someone's life.

Is there a lifetime max to your medical insurance policy? I met that guy when I was in my 20s. His wife was dying of brain cancer. I was a BC/BS customer service representative, personal interview. We cried together. He was going to lose just about everything. He was in his late 40s.

Originally Posted by davephan

That's a sad situation, losing everything, and have your health go down the drain. My philosophy is there has to be quality of life. I believe that assisted suicide is the way out of that situation, instead of being in terminal declining health with constant pain.

Wait, so the alternative to health insurance reform/eliminating lifetime maximums should be death? You seriously believe terminally ill people should have to choose between going into debt or death? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for assisted suicide, but as a choice for the ill to pass peacefully, not because the sole way to avoid leaving their loved ones destitute is to die.

(Sorry to derail the subject, but I just couldn't let this one go.)

[tlarnla]

Our tax dollars pay for a lot of things, not just welfare. They even pay for the police and fire department to protect your vacant house while you are off living it up in your Florida vacation spot.

[David A Stone]

Originally Posted by tlarnla

Our tax dollars pay for a lot of things, not just welfare. They even pay for the police and fire department to protect your vacant house while you are off living it up in your Florida vacation spot.

He will still be paying steep property taxes on that Minnesota home.


Property taxes are paid to the city.


Income taxes are paid to the state.


The OP will be paying his fair share for police and fire protection via his steep property taxes !

[tlarnla]

Why do you emphasize "steep property taxes"? That really depends on what city the OP lives in.
MN property taxes are not "steep" in comparison to the rest of the country. MN ranks right in the middle, hence the OP will be paying "average property taxes".

[601halfdozen0theother]

Yeah, seriously. When I lived in the Arrowhead, my property taxes were around $400 a year. No kidding. And when I owned a home in SE MN, my annual property taxes were $670.00 a year.

See? One more reason not to live in the Terrible Cities. Choose Out State, it's the RIGHT choice! Yay, rah!

And in case I hadn't made it clear in my original answer to the OP: I've done exactly what OP is planning - lived in MN for less than 6 months and in a state-income-tax-free state for more than 6 months of the same year. I STILL had to pay MN income tax as a part-year resident. Plus pay the higher property taxes in the no income tax state.

But, hey - clean air and water and well educated citizens are worth a few extra bucks.

[davephan]

Originally Posted by 601halfdozen0theother

Yeah, seriously. When I lived in the Arrowhead, my property taxes were around $400 a year. No kidding. And when I owned a home in SE MN, my annual property taxes were $670.00 a year.

See? One more reason not to live in the Terrible Cities. Choose Out State, it's the RIGHT choice! Yay, rah!

And in case I hadn't made it clear in my original answer to the OP: I've done exactly what OP is planning - lived in MN for less than 6 months and in a state-income-tax-free state for more than 6 months of the same year. I STILL had to pay MN income tax as a part-year resident. Plus pay the higher property taxes in the no income tax state.

But, hey - clean air and water and well educated citizens are worth a few extra bucks.

Why did you have to pay Minnesota income taxes when you lived in Minnesota less than six months?

[mn shutterbug]

Originally Posted by davephan

Why did you have to pay Minnesota income taxes when you lived in Minnesota less than six months?

I'd assume because he worked in MN and got a paycheck.

[601halfdozen0theother]

No - at that time my income was completely from investments. (said She.)

Sorry, OP, you're just going to have to fork over some dough to MN and file a part-time resident state tax form if you live in MN for any time at all and have any income at all during that time.

As I said originally, go see a CPA and maybe they can figure out a way to minimize what you'll have to pay. Seriously. Time to get your answers from a professional.

But I'm right, of course.

[Minnesota Dave]

Nothing is greedier than government. Always wants more. Politicians using taxes as a weapon and reward to voters to support them. Minnesota taxes on what your gross income that comes from Minnesota is. So does that mean Minnesota government pensioners, teacher pensions, etc are taxed when they move our of state? Does a shareholder of 3M get taxed in Minnesota when they live elsewhere? Political favoritism is corruption.