MN "least tax-friendly State" in America (new report) (St. Paul: for sale, how much) - Minnesota - City-Data Forum

Kavalier · 10-12-2018, 09:18 AM

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“It’s important that Americans don’t overlook the impact of state and local taxes on their bottom line. Kiplinger.com’s Tax Map shows that tax rates literally are all over the map—and the difference between living in a high-tax or a low-tax state can be thousands of dollars each year,” said Robert Long, general manager of Kiplinger.com. .

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/...y-state-in-us/

Thedosius · 10-12-2018, 12:18 PM

Wow- focusing on one single facet of something immensely complex - like a state economy - sure makes Mississippi look great!

Cruz Azul Guy · 10-13-2018, 07:59 AM

Kavalier, you don’t like taxes and refugees, we get it. You’re running on fumes here...for the sake of the sanity of the message board please come up with something else to complain about. Thanks in advance.

LeTraveler · 10-13-2018, 09:32 AM

I don't know, I take a broader view of things.

I'm coming from a lower tax state, GA (although it didn't make this top ten, it's normally on these sort of lists). I would have appreciated it if the taxes were higher if it meant better public services. As it was, low taxes meant a lot of stuff didn't get done. Trash piles would linger for weeks or even months in certain areas of the city, public schools were not good so children weren't well-positioned for the future, police and ambulance response time was so slow as to be irrelevant.

The only way to get quality services was to go private which in the end might have meant more money. It also meant your standard of living, if not your life, depended greatly on how much money you had. I don't know firsthand what these particular "tax-friendly" places are like to live but that was my experience in a state people flock to because it's supposed to be cheap. I've lived in a few of the other states listed as least tax-friendly and again, the quality of life overall was better.

Having experienced that I don't fall to pieces when I see the taxes here. The pay here is also higher so that overall I have more saved despite the higher taxes.

If you're not happy here then I sincerely hope you can find a way to move. I'm not saying that as a "gtfo". When I wasn't happy, I moved and I don't regret it. Everyone has to determine what's best for them. It doesn't look like MN will lower taxes dramatically any time in the future so if that and other aspects bother you, then I hope you can find a better place.

Kavalier · 10-13-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

Kavalier, you don’t like taxes and refugees, we get it. You’re running on fumes here...for the sake of the sanity of the message board please come up with something else to complain about. Thanks in advance.

Hmmm, I looked back at the OP...I did not say anything in the post - I just quoted. I actually just posted info from a very left-wing source (WCCO).

snebarekim · 10-13-2018, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kavalier

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/...y-state-in-us/

I grew up there, still have many family in the area. Now approaching retirement, I decided against purchasing a small "snowbird" lake side summer home early last year in northern Minnesota, in part because of their tax policies.

The home seemed a sweet deal ( 900SF, with 180 feet of shoreline on a nice lake, on a full developed acre). It went quick.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisb.../#191e0eca6c20

Kavalier · 10-13-2018, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisb.../#191e0eca6c20

I'm going to consider WI down the road.

Zenstyle · 10-13-2018, 11:21 AM

High taxes? That tells me it's a state that takes care of its people, roads, bridges, libraries, schools, and parks. Sounds like a place I would like to live (if I didn't already love Michigan.)

Teak · 10-13-2018, 02:01 PM

There is a certain level of services that people are willing to pay for, but at some point you have to ask "Really?"

My brother lives in a St. Paul suburb, within one block of a lake. He pays something like $2,800 per year in property taxes, more than double what I pay in small-town Minnesota.

One year, the house at the end of his street, and on lake-front property, came up for sale. He told me to go down and take a look at the house, and then go online and look at the realtor's website. The house was about the same size and layout as his house. The property taxes: $28,000 per year. No, that is not a typo. Ten times his taxes simply for being lake front. So $2,333 per month in property tax. Not sure what extra that is paying for but OUCH!

GraniteStater · 10-13-2018, 02:39 PM

Regarding taxes on lakefront properties, that highly depends on the assessed value of the property and the parcel that it is situated on. In rural areas with lakes, there is an even bigger discrepancy regarding property taxes compared to non-lakefront properties. Consider Nisswa, MN in the Brainerd Lakes region, or Boulder Junction, WI in Vilas County. Or, Moultonboro, NH that contains 1/2 of all the lake frontage on Lake Winnipesaukee. You have some properties there that are assessed over $8,000,000 that have property taxes of well over $50,000 a year. However, you can also find cheap properties of $200,000 in the same town away from the lake with $1,750 in taxes a year... Location, location, location.