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Old 09-12-2017, 03:44 PM
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Another city could furl state flag with Confederate emblem | WJTV News 12

Meridian, specifically. Awaits the fireworks.

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MERIDIAN, Miss. (AP) – Another Mississippi city could stop flying the state flag because it features the Confederate battle emblem that critics see as racist.

Meridian Mayor Percy Bland tells The Meridian Star he thinks the flag is “divisive” in a state with a 38 percent black population.

He says the City Council could discuss removing the flag from display on municipal property when it meets Sept. 19.

All eight of Mississippi’s public universities and several cities and counties have stopped flying the flag because of concerns about the Confederate emblem.

WTOK-TV reports a small group protested the flag Monday outside the Lauderdale County Courthouse in Meridian. Organizer Dennis Allen said the flag represents “high treason” by Southern states that tried to secede before the Civil War.

Flag supporters say it represents history.
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Old 09-12-2017, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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I don't have an attachment to the Confederate emblem on the state flag, and I support it's removal, however, the flag does not represent high treason. There were many reasons the South would have wanted to secede. There are always two sides to the story.
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I don't have an attachment to the Confederate emblem on the state flag, and I support it's removal, however, the flag does not represent high treason. There were many reasons the South would have wanted to secede. There are always two sides to the story.
Yeah. I'll go along with that.

It was a different time. If towns want to take it down, I'm fine with that. Regardless of what various towns and states do, it will remain a Southern symbol and some people will fly it.
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I don't have an attachment to the Confederate emblem on the state flag, and I support it's removal, however, the flag does not represent high treason. There were many reasons the South would have wanted to secede. There are always two sides to the story.
How is it not when you attack your country and lose the war? They weren't yet a sovereign nation.
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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Towns have the right to do as they wish. I know the Supreme Court could potentially be looking to a case that was filed by someone. I've never flown the confederate flag ever but I don't think all people who do are bad people.
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Old 09-14-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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How is it not when you attack your country and lose the war? They weren't yet a sovereign nation.
Uh, MS, along with the other Southern States, succeeded from the Union. No CSA official or Confederate Officer was ever tried for treason. The CSA, at that time, was not part of the US.
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Old 09-15-2017, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Uh, MS, along with the other Southern States, succeeded from the Union. No CSA official or Confederate Officer was ever tried for treason. The CSA, at that time, was not part of the US.
It wasn't it's own country unless another nation recognized it. As far as I know, it was never recognized by anyone other nation and so is ultimately a failed rebellion much like ISIS controlled territory that they claim is sovereign. I'm not trying to argue, I'm being sincere about it's legitimacy.
Whether or not they were tried doesn't necessarily mean anything, OJ still killed those two people and we all know it.
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Old 09-15-2017, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Ayy Tee Ell by way of MS, TN, AL and FL
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Uh, MS, along with the other Southern States, succeeded from the Union. No CSA official or Confederate Officer was ever tried for treason. The CSA, at that time, was not part of the US.
I kinda have to go with the liberals on this one. All throughout the Revolutionary War, it was documented that there were no POWs, rather, Colonials who were captured where considered criminals. We just happened to win that war.

Here's a good link on it: How US Civil War rebels got away with treason - Futurity

I think it boiled down to a war-torn country being 'nice' to each other, and attempting to move on.
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Old 09-15-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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Why would a third country have to recognize it for it to legit, at least in its own eyes? Rome didn't wait for the Greeks or Egyptians to recognize them. If the South had played it to a draw and the Union eventually stopped fighting, would the CSA not continued to be an independent government like it already was? When the NVA and Viet Cong drove the South and Allies off the peninsula, where they not a legitimate government?
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Old 09-15-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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I don't have an attachment to the Confederate emblem on the state flag, and I support it's removal, however, the flag does not represent high treason. There were many reasons the South would have wanted to secede. There are always two sides to the story.
There could be 3 million reasons they wanted to secede, that doesn't change the fact that doing so and then going to war with THEIR country WAS an act of treason! Makes no difference what they wanted or what their argument was. There was a correct way to handle disagreements with the government then, just as there is now. They chose the other way. It will always be our history and should always be taught and never forgotten, but they did what they did and the excuses for it need to stop. People who commit treason shouldn't have monuments for them and the flag they flew should never be part of a State or Municipality.
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