California Taxes failed (Jackson: sales, universities, salaries)

[Astral_Weeks]

Originally Posted by viverlibre

California is like a beautiful woman, she can be dumb as dirt, treat everyone like crap, put little effort into her job or relationships, yet she is the most popular person everywhere she goes.

I am a California native and I think this is funny as hell. Don't really agree with it fully on the merits but it is still a good one.

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by Astral_Weeks

Also, you conveniently lumped the 70's and 80's together.

No I didn't, Jackson Panther did. I simply used the stats he provided. I tried to use decades but that was the best I could do without googling and doing more pointless research.

My point stands.

[Seadory]

Originally Posted by viverlibre

California is like a beautiful woman, she can be dumb as dirt, treat everyone like crap, put little effort into her job or relationships, yet she is the most popular person everywhere she goes.

An outstanding analogy viverlibre! Sadly, beauty is not eternal and this old rose is fading fast. No amount of costly cosmetic surgery can prop up those droopy eyes and dangling-well, you know.


People are not as amused by her unrestrained spending and question the wisdom behind her $100B high-speed train project. After all, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation. Maybe she is a bit senile too.

[Dd714]

Not sure why this is in the MS forum.
But it reminds me of the Rolling Stones Exile in Main Street era.

The Stones decided they were paying too much to the British Government in taxes. You think CA was bad? They were paying some 98% in tax. No worries, they moved to the south of france to escape the taxes, hence the "exile". Built there own studio and went on to record one of their best albums in their discography.

Rich pay too much? No problem, if it gets to bad they simply move, along with all the assets, investments, and companies, to somewhere else. If the government taxes too much, they will get nothing.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by Dd714

Not sure why this is in the MS forum.
But it reminds me of the Rolling Stones Exile in Main Street era.

The Stones decided they were paying too much to the British Government in taxes. You think CA was bad? They were paying some 98% in tax. No worries, they moved to the south of france to escape the taxes, hence the "exile". Built there own studio and went on to record one of their best albums in their discography.

Rich pay too much? No problem, if it gets to bad they simply move, along with all the assets, investments, and companies, to somewhere else. If the government taxes too much, they will get nothing.

Didnt the rich say they would leave if Obama got elected? And Democrats if Trump was elected? Rich people aren't moving to another country for taxes. Nobody is. People emigrate for life threatening reasons.

[Listener2307]

Originally Posted by Dd714

Not sure why this is in the MS forum...........

There is actually an answer for that.
I screwed up.
I meant to put it in the "Politics and Controversies" forum, but had a senior moment and forgot where I was. No matter. It seems to create a brisk conversation around here, and I know at least one resident of California who finds our state fascinating and may even move here.

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

Didnt the rich say they would leave if Obama got elected? And Democrats if Trump was elected? Rich people aren't moving to another country for taxes. Nobody is. People emigrate for life threatening reasons.

Wow that is a mad case of delusion.

People move all the time (their families, and their financial interests), to avoid rising costs. Taxes are a cost that must be accounted for. I guess you just ignore all the companies who choose development sites based mainly off tax breaks?

I don’t understand how you form this opinion.

[supfromthesite]

Peter Schiff moved to Puerto Rico to avoid taxes.

[Astral_Weeks]

Originally Posted by Mississippi Alabama Line

No I didn't, Jackson Panther did. I simply used the stats he provided. I tried to use decades but that was the best I could do without googling and doing more pointless research.

Ok, fair enough.

Originally Posted by Mississippi Alabama Line

My point stands.

No, your overall point does not stand.

As I noted, California's population growth between 2010 to 2018 was 6.2% and is very comparable to the nation's overall population growth over the same period: 5.96%.

As the nation's most populous state, it is only natural to see a decelerating rate of population growth over time.

Mississippi's population growth:
1970 to 1980: 13.7%
1980 to 1990: 2.1%
1990 to 2000: 10.5%
2000 to 2010: 4.3%
2010 to 2018: 0.6%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi#Demographics

yet no ideological commentary about Mississippi's anemic population growth.....

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by Astral_Weeks

Ok, fair enough.



No, your overall point does not stand.

As I noted, California's population growth between 2010 to 2018 was 6.2% and is very comparable to the nation's overall population growth over the same period: 5.96%.

As the nation's most populous state, it is only natural to see a decelerating rate of population growth over time.

Mississippi's population growth:
1970 to 1980: 13.7%
1980 to 1990: 2.1%
1990 to 2000: 10.5%
2000 to 2010: 4.3%
2010 to 2018: 0.6%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi#Demographics

yet no ideological commentary about Mississippi's anemic population growth.....

Uhh, it's pretty much common knowledge that Mississippi has anemic growth. Trying the shaming route won't work here.

I'm glad we agree that California, one of the allegedly greatest states out there, is seeing an incredibly decelerating rate of population growth.

On the other hand, meet Texas (the guy stealing Cali's people, LOL):

1970 to 1980: 27.1%
1980 to 1990: 19.4%
1990 to 2000: 22.8%
2000 to 2010: 20.6%
2010 to 2018: 14.1%

Once the 2020 census comes out that 14.1 will likely be 18 or 19 (after yet ANOTHER few Cali-based companies move their HQ there haha).