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Old 03-07-2019, 02:41 PM
 
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Irony aside, MS is actually NOT a low tax state. In this link it's listed as tied in top 14th HIGHEST tax rate.
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-wit...-burden/20494/

What hurts me at my income level is income tax (lived in TN and FL without a state income tax), and sales tax is pretty high as well.
That's what I was thinking too... People would rather live in Tennessee cause the taxes are lower there.
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Old 03-07-2019, 02:42 PM
 
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This is too funny. Jackson is the largest city in Mississippi, and it doesn't even crack 200,000 people. Ole Miss is ranked #152 in the US.

To suggest that Mississippi is home to more tech and cultural than the states you mention is outlandish.

Your entire post reads like an article from "The Onion"! hah.
Don't take everything literally. It was sarcasm.
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Old 03-07-2019, 02:50 PM
 
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It's more of a cost-of-living thing.

I've lived in Florida, and it's like #5 on most lists of least taxed states. But it costs a heck of a lot more to live there, when you factor in ALL taxes, not just income and such. 'Stuff' costs more there too, not just real estate.
Oh I agree. I hate the state income tax in MS but it's a heck of alot cheaper to live here than florida even with the taxes. It more than balances out, I come out ahead.
What I miss however is TN - best of both worlds. Cheap cost of living, no state income tax...and you have the beautiful mountains on the eastern border.
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Uhh, it's pretty much common knowledge that Mississippi has anemic growth. Trying the shaming route won't work here.
I never said anything about shame. I simply pointed to actual data. You appear to be ashamed of something...not sure why.


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I'm glad we agree that California, one of the allegedly greatest states out there, is seeing an incredibly decelerating rate of population growth.

On the other hand, meet Texas (the guy stealing Cali's people, LOL):

1970 to 1980: 27.1%
1980 to 1990: 19.4%
1990 to 2000: 22.8%
2000 to 2010: 20.6%
2010 to 2018: 14.1%

Once the 2020 census comes out that 14.1 will likely be 18 or 19 (after yet ANOTHER few Cali-based companies move their HQ there haha).
California has 12 million more people than Texas...so the simple arithmetic of a larger base means it will grow at a slower rate.

But look at the Texas data you posted: the growth is decelerating over time as well.
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Old 03-08-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of TN, AL and FL
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California has 12 million more people than Texas
Not for long.

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But look at the Texas data you posted: the growth is decelerating over time as well.
I'm sure it will start decelerating eventually, once higher taxes and liberal policies create the same situation California is facing, with a super rich class and a super poor class and minimal middle class.

The rate of deceleration in CA vs. TX is not nearly the same. That's silly.
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Old 03-08-2019, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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This is the same phenomena you see in any super rich city. It becomes liberal over time due to the decadence. The rich people stay because they can afford it, the poor people stay but just get poorer. The middle class leaves because they can't afford it but refuse to be poor. Most of the time the middle class end up in suburbs but once it hits a breaking point, they leave the area altogether. That is beginning to happen now in California.


This is not due to tax. California has a bunch of money because of all the natural resources and economy it has. This happened long, long ago and is nothing the government can or cannot do about that. High taxes come after the fact, due again to sustained decadence. It's the natural order of things.

It's laughable that you make a comparison of CA to MS and then say the difference is due to taxes. I mean, it's got nothing to do with the film industry does it?
There is so much more than just the film industry. That’s just a part of it. And truthfully lots of movies are made in other states now. So the movie industry isn’t swinging as big a stick as it used to.

Mississippi population is about 3 million

California population is about 40 million.

Texas around 28 million.

40 million people is gonna require infrastructure and the money to support that infrastructure. Yes California is expensive. Nobody is arguing that. You’re not gonna be a state populated by 40 million people and have cheap everything. It doesn’t work that way. If it was we would be a state with 80 million people.
If you could have everything California offers for Mississippi prices you would have people taking a number at the border to relocate because the line would be so long.

You could take Mississippi or any state for that matter and if you add another 12/ 37,000,000 people you’re gonna have the same issues California does.
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of TN, AL and FL
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You could take Mississippi or any state for that matter and if you add another 12/ 37,000,000 people you’re gonna have the same issues California does.
I agree. Thus the basis of my post.
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:31 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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................You could take Mississippi or any state for that matter and if you add another 12/ 37,000,000 people you’re gonna have the same issues California does.
I understand what you are saying, but there is another component to it, and that is the state government. Some large population states - like Florida - are simply run better than California. The same for Texas.




If California had not taken it upon themselves to save the world with special environmental and work force and commerce regulations perhaps they may be doing better. I know they have a lot of people, but they are far from being the most densely populated area.
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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1850: 92,597
1860: 379,994
1900: 1,485,053
1930: 5,677,251
1950: 10,586,223
1970: 19,953,134
1990: 29,760,021
2000: 33,871,648
2009: 38,292,687
2015: 38,715,000
2017: 39,536,653

Not once in any measurement period has CA's population fallen.

Don't send me any more links to crap articles about people moving to Oregon and Idaho. Here are the numbers. The rest of it is just crap you say to make yourself feel better.

QED
California's population is growing mostly because of relatively high birthrates and rates of foreign immigration.

Net domestic migration tends to be negative.
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Florida is not the 5th largest state in the world. California is. Florida isn't the center of innovation, entertainment, technology, etc.

Florida "runs better" because they have less things to run. And yeah, California wants to save the world. That is what an ambitious state does. Nothing wrong with that. You can't make it, move someplace else.
Meh... People are leaving California and California is taking in less in tax revenue than it used to. The point is, raising the tax rate only works up to a point.
"Saving" a world of 197 million square miles while occupying only 165,000 square miles of it is more of an ego trip than a journey. California occupies less than .08% of the earth.
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