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Old 09-04-2019, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Is the population of Mississippi shrinking relative to population growth? It has to be, I'm noticing lots of school district consolidation, and even in my small home town the middle school sits empty, the HS in the next town over sits empty. Young people with any kind of education or talent are leaving the state as soon as they can. No economic opportunity coupled with stagnant social change, and deeply entrenched racism, make this a horrible place to raise a family. Especially for minorities with any type of ambition.
You’ll find the same problem of small towns drying up throughout rural areas, even ones that vote Democrat.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:13 PM
 
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Is the population of Mississippi shrinking relative to population growth? It has to be, I'm noticing lots of school district consolidation, and even in my small home town the middle school sits empty, the HS in the next town over sits empty. Young people with any kind of education or talent are leaving the state as soon as they can. No economic opportunity coupled with stagnant social change, and deeply entrenched racism, make this a horrible place to raise a family. Especially for minorities with any type of ambition.
Rural towns are shrinking around the country as a whole.
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:00 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Is the population of Mississippi shrinking relative to population growth? It has to be, I'm noticing lots of school district consolidation, and even in my small home town the middle school sits empty, the HS in the next town over sits empty. Young people with any kind of education or talent are leaving the state as soon as they can. No economic opportunity coupled with stagnant social change, and deeply entrenched racism, make this a horrible place to raise a family. Especially for minorities with any type of ambition.
It's not growing. But not quite shrinking, either. Illinois, W Va, and VT are actually shrinking.


I was disappointed when my College Grad grandson took a teaching job in MS and married a girl who also is a teacher. Worse yet, he accepted a supplementary position as a football coach. They are here for life.


Ambitious, curious young people should look elsewhere for a career. I think most of them do, eventually.
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of TN, AL and FL
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It's not growing. But not quite shrinking, either. Illinois, W Va, and VT are actually shrinking.

I was disappointed when my College Grad grandson took a teaching job in MS and married a girl who also is a teacher. Worse yet, he accepted a supplementary position as a football coach. They are here for life.

Ambitious, curious young people should look elsewhere for a career. I think most of them do, eventually.
Not sure why you post this garbage. There are plenty of good careers to be had in various sectors. The only reason to really leave the state is if you want to a huge metropolitan area (and many people do).

There are logistics jobs out the ying-yang in Desoto County and Jackson. Shipbuilding and military in South Mississippi. The Stennis Center is hiring people all the time. CSpire and Ingalls have their own training academies for pete's sake. Continental, Nissan, Toyota - these places hire white collar people too. Golden Triangle area? Great jobs all over and they are desperately trying to train more people every day.

The past few years have been pretty awesome as far as job creation in the state. Again, if you want a tech job or just want a HUGE metropolitan booming area, your best bet is Nashville or somewhere like that. But there are plenty of avenues here.

Some of you are simply some bitter, bitter, bitter people.
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Not sure why you post this garbage. There are plenty of good careers to be had in various sectors. The only reason to really leave the state is if you want to a huge metropolitan area (and many people do).

There are logistics jobs out the ying-yang in Desoto County and Jackson. Shipbuilding and military in South Mississippi. The Stennis Center is hiring people all the time. CSpire and Ingalls have their own training academies for pete's sake. Continental, Nissan, Toyota - these places hire white collar people too. Golden Triangle area? Great jobs all over and they are desperately trying to train more people every day.

The past few years have been pretty awesome as far as job creation in the state. Again, if you want a tech job or just want a HUGE metropolitan booming area, your best bet is Nashville or somewhere like that. But there are plenty of avenues here.

Some of you are simply some bitter, bitter, bitter people.
Listener is quick to point out flaws in Mississippi and badmouth the state as he sees fit, but is equally as quick to chastise me for doing so. It's OK though. Nothing wrong with pointing out things that need correcting, but a little hypocritical to do so and railroad me for doing it.

Only a proponent of Mississippi when it's convenient and doesn't affect him or his family I guess.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:05 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Not sure why you post this garbage.............
Because it is what I believe. I have lived in many places, some were better than others.
Mississippi generally does not have much to offer, although there are places where that is not true. I think young people are better off leaving Mississippi and experiencing the rest of America, at least for a while. A study done some years ago found that 70% of Mississippians had never lived anywhere else, and I see that as a problem.
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Old 09-05-2019, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Not sure why you post this garbage. There are plenty of good careers to be had in various sectors. The only reason to really leave the state is if you want to a huge metropolitan area (and many people do).

There are logistics jobs out the ying-yang in Desoto County and Jackson. Shipbuilding and military in South Mississippi. The Stennis Center is hiring people all the time. CSpire and Ingalls have their own training academies for pete's sake. Continental, Nissan, Toyota - these places hire white collar people too. Golden Triangle area? Great jobs all over and they are desperately trying to train more people every day.

The past few years have been pretty awesome as far as job creation in the state. Again, if you want a tech job or just want a HUGE metropolitan booming area, your best bet is Nashville or somewhere like that. But there are plenty of avenues here.

Some of you are simply some bitter, bitter, bitter people.
Agreed.
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Old 09-05-2019, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Because it is what I believe. I have lived in many places, some were better than others.
Mississippi generally does not have much to offer, although there are places where that is not true. I think young people are better off leaving Mississippi and experiencing the rest of America, at least for a while. A study done some years ago found that 70% of Mississippians had never lived anywhere else, and I see that as a problem.
Opinonated with travel.

I think we spoke on this before, that can be applied to every state residents. Just because they have lived in their home state their lifetime doesn't mean they haven't traveled to other locations. Different strokes for different folks. Not all young people are attracted to the hustle & bustle of large cities, some of us actually do like mid size to small cities.
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Old 09-05-2019, 03:03 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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There are two different issues being conflated.
The first is the idea that Mississippi is a hotbed of ignorance and racism that is unexpressed in any other state. That's simply not true. Racism and ignorance exist in every corner of every state. So singling out a single act of racism and saying, "I knew it! Mississippi again!" is simply unfair. We do not live in a hotbed of ignorance and intolerance. We do have ignorant people - just like every other state.



The other idea is that Mississippi lacks opportunity. I stand by my feeling that is does lack opportunity. A simple demonstration could be the issue of wages. Carpenters make $36,770/year in MS and that's pretty low on a national scale - 48th in fact.
You get similar results when you compare family income in Mississippi to family income in the US. $55K vs $73K.
Per capita income is even worse. Follow the above link.

People will go where the jobs are if they can. And the ones that "can" are very often the ones who have responded the best to educational opportunities.
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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...Mississippi is a hotbed of ignorance and racism that is unexpressed in any other state. That's simply not true...
I did not say Mississippi is a "hotbed" of racism, however, for a small population state we have more than our share of incidents. Denying interracial couples of being married, sheriffs texting racist remarks, up until a few years ago one of the few segregated proms in existence, lawsuit because of racist way of choosing governors, Hyde-Smith on camera saying if she was invited to a public hanging she would be on the front row... I could go on but I don't think I need to.

My point is some people, even ones in a public capacity, are saying and doing these things. It's Mississippi so you know it gets attention. It's like cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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