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Old 01-08-2021, 10:42 PM
 
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You MISSED my point. I specifically said I do not feel comfortable being myself, IE; revealing my political position. The hostility is towards liberals by people that don't know I am one, that often aren't even talking to me. Just hateful BS all around.

My hostility is reactionary, I suppose. I tried for the past year and a half to find things I like and I do have to admit, I love being able to have open air chicken coops and winter gardens, but I struggle beyond that. I've never felt so isolated in my life. (Even before Covid-19, and all it takes is to walk into a place with a mask on in some places around here to get dirty looks, sometimes!) The events of the past few days have made things particularly unpleasant amongst family and acquaintances, even. Can't wait to GTFO. Y'all enjoy the heck out of it.

BTW, remember that I lived elsewhere for a very long time. It DID solve the problems I had that pertained to situational unpleasantness in my environment! I agree with you that if you're an unhappy person for some nebulous reason you can't put your finger on, yeah, moving ain't gonna help. But if you know what you like and know what makes you happy and you KNOW you're not getting it where you are—go where you can find that. I came back of some mistaken obligation towards family, but frankly... they were apparently part of the problem that drove me away in the first place, lol.

Life's too short to live somewhere you hate. I don't talk politics with anyone but my closest friends and grow tired of it quickly even then (I'm no fan of either party, a free thinker). The best advice I can give you: "if it doesn't make you money or make you happy, don't do it." That includes family (not your children of course, they are you responsibility).
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Old 01-10-2021, 12:45 PM
 
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I am considering a move to the Biloxi area from the Midwest. I am liberal and not religious. That being said, I do keep to myself and don't shove my beliefs down anyone's throat. How would I fare in a conservative state like MS? Any input would be appreciated! Thank you!
Move to a university town in Mississippi. Liberals don't stand out in a room full of educated people.
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Old 01-10-2021, 01:35 PM
 
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I moved back to Desoto County (NW Mississippi) after about fifteen years away. I have not enjoyed it in large part because of political hostility. Even if people don't know my beliefs, I am often subjected to rants about "liberals" and "socialists" and "communists" and other ignorant drivel expressing violent thoughts towards people that do not align with their beliefs. It feels very threatening, like things could go sideways at any moment if someone knew what I was about. I don't feel I can be myself at all. As a single woman, dating is impossible. It's an isolating and unpleasant experience to know everyone around you thinks you're an idiot at best, and actively wishes you harm at worse. I know most of the commentary is empty threats and bravado, but it only takes one extremist to take it to the next level when you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. Seems like the odds of that happening are higher here than elsewhere.
Unfortunately the events of this week in DC show that it is not not all empty threats and bravado. The right wing in this country is moving in a truly frightening direction.
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Old 01-10-2021, 02:41 PM
 
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Unfortunately the events of this week in DC show that it is not not all empty threats and bravado. The right wing in this country is moving in a truly frightening direction.
You missed the entirety of last year? The whole right and left thing needs to stop. If nothing else, the last four years have proven a whole lot of politicians to be worthless, pandering idiots. Democrats and Republicans alike. And there's a surprisingly large population of grown-ass adults behaving like 2 year olds that missed a couple spankings growing up.
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Old 01-10-2021, 08:27 PM
 
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You missed the entirety of last year? The whole right and left thing needs to stop. If nothing else, the last four years have proven a whole lot of politicians to be worthless, pandering idiots. Democrats and Republicans alike. And there's a surprisingly large population of grown-ass adults behaving like 2 year olds that missed a couple spankings growing up.
I wish people would stop with the moral equivalency if what happened last summer and an attack on Congress with the backing if the President and so many on the right. The country has had many riots throughout it's history...many far, far worse than anything in the last decade. This was the first direct assault on Congress to overturn an election
. And you don't see me on here defending the violence of last summer...like most supporters of the protest movement I don't go for that stuff. I am seeing far more right wing support for what happened last week than I ever saw with Democrats supporting violence last summer.
The Democrats represent the majority of Americans. They have won the popular vote in every Presidential election since 1988 save for 2004.
Last year they pulled in 81million votes. Millions more Democrats didn't vote.
Tell you you don't think a substantial percentage of those people were out committing violence? If that were the case the whole country would have gone up.
The right is far more gone than the left. I think right wing talk radio has a lot to do with that. It is awful.
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Old 01-11-2021, 05:45 AM
 
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I wish people would stop with the moral equivalency if what happened last summer and an attack on Congress with the backing if the President and so many on the right. The country has had many riots throughout it's history...many far, far worse than anything in the last decade. This was the first direct assault on Congress to overturn an election
. And you don't see me on here defending the violence of last summer...like most supporters of the protest movement I don't go for that stuff. I am seeing far more right wing support for what happened last week than I ever saw with Democrats supporting violence last summer.
The Democrats represent the majority of Americans. They have won the popular vote in every Presidential election since 1988 save for 2004.
Last year they pulled in 81million votes. Millions more Democrats didn't vote.
Tell you you don't think a substantial percentage of those people were out committing violence? If that were the case the whole country would have gone up.
The right is far more gone than the left. I think right wing talk radio has a lot to do with that. It is awful.
Of course you do, but you can't have it both ways. Your democrat leadership gleefully endorsed and encouraged the protest/burning/looting/occupying of last year (nantionally, not specific to Mississsippi)
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:37 AM
 
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There is a P&C forum here guys.
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Old 01-11-2021, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of TN, AL and FL
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And you don't see me on here defending the violence of last summer...like most supporters of the protest movement I don't go for that stuff. I am seeing far more right wing support for what happened last week than I ever saw with Democrats supporting violence last summer.
Right after you said this:

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The country has had many riots throughout it's history...many far, far worse than anything in the last decade. This was the first direct assault on Congress to overturn an election
That is the textbook definition of "defending the violence". You downplay it to make it appear as if it's nothing.
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Old 01-11-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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Unfortunately the events of this week in DC show that it is not not all empty threats and bravado. The right wing in this country is moving in a truly frightening direction.
Re-reading that now, written before the events of last Wednesday... it was depressingly prescient, wasn't it?
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Old 01-11-2021, 01:46 PM
 
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You missed the entirety of last year? The whole right and left thing needs to stop. If nothing else, the last four years have proven a whole lot of politicians to be worthless, pandering idiots. Democrats and Republicans alike. And there's a surprisingly large population of grown-ass adults behaving like 2 year olds that missed a couple spankings growing up.
I agree to most of that. Our political system and the constitution that enables it needs a full overhaul.

People find out I'm left-leaning and assume I'm supportive of the Democrats and generally aligned with the current "liberal" mentality. I am not. The Democrats are just as much trash as the Republicans. I did not, and would never in a million years, vote for Biden. He's just barely to the left of the same mark that Trump is just barely to the right of. The big differences are not in policy, but in the presentation and pandering. (Which is becoming very dangerous in a populist/propaganda machine kind of way.) It's all a GD dog and pony show, though, and it all disgusts me, frankly.

I'm sure a lot of the hostily and conflict in my household is spurred on by my wild cackling and hysterical laughter every time a right-winger on TV says one of the Democrats are radical socialists. . I *wish* we had some radical socialist representation in office somewhere! LOL

As for "the right and left thing has to stop"... I dunno. Would that be part of a perfect world? Maybe. I do truly believe that we all want the same basic things in life, we all want to be happy, healthy, and secure. We just have radically different notions of how to go about acheiving those things. The left tends to believe that we acheive that by making sure it happens for ALL of us and they believe that is possible whereas the right I think does not believe it's possible for everyone to be happy, healthy, and secure so they prioritize those things for themselves, even when it means throwing others under the bus. I think it's the difference between being yolked with perpetual scarcity mentality, pessimism about the innate nature of man, and general fear vs. having hope (perhaps naively) and seeing possibility of plenty and pursuing that relentlessly even in cases where it has not succeeded in the past.

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