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Old 04-29-2021, 08:03 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I’m surprised Mississippi’s population only shrunk by about 6,000. It seems like Greenville alone lost that many people.
Maybe they all went to Cleveland.
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of TN, AL and FL
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But that's not what you did.
You racialized the issue and now you urge others not to.
Wrong. sammyreynolds did that.
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:56 AM
 
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A few reasons are: state income tax and regulations.

MS surprisingly in spite of it's "live and let live" attitude, is heavily regulated. There are 9.3 million words worth of regulations in Mississippi. They make up nearly 118,000 regulatory requirements. This results in limiting the ability to start up and grow businesses, limiting opportunity.

Also the state income tax, here we are competing with southern states that have no income tax - TX, TN, and Florida. Yes I will be leaving MS as well, due to state income tax (of course legislation is planned to address that). $7,000 a year in savings is a big incentive to leave. Everyone says other taxes, property, make up for it. Living in Florida and TN in the past, that's not true. Income tax is progressive. Then we also have car ad valorem taxes.

MS is a good state to live in with a cheap cost of living, if you are poor. But if you punish the middle class and/or limit there opportunities, they go packing. Of course the middle class and rich will leave, the poor will remain. That might explain the demographic shift as well.
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Old 04-30-2021, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of TN, AL and FL
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Everyone says other taxes, property, make up for it. Living in Florida and TN in the past, that's not true.
Yes and no. But it's not just taxes, it's the overall cost-of-living. I too have lived in FL and TN, along with AL as well. It's cheapest to live in MS, then AL, then TN, then FL. And obviously there are variations and a sliding scale based on where you are (obviously Nashville is more expensive than BFE, Florida).

BUT....that said, your point is valid because it's the PERCEPTION, and perception matters unfortunately.
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Old 04-30-2021, 02:46 PM
 
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Maybe they all went to Cleveland.
Cleveland is shrinking, too.
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Old 04-30-2021, 02:52 PM
 
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Yes and no. But it's not just taxes, it's the overall cost-of-living. I too have lived in FL and TN, along with AL as well. It's cheapest to live in MS, then AL, then TN, then FL. And obviously there are variations and a sliding scale based on where you are (obviously Nashville is more expensive than BFE, Florida).

BUT....that said, your point is valid because it's the PERCEPTION, and perception matters unfortunately.
MS is pretty cheap. But I lived in TN - $0 state income tax, $15 or so annual vehicle registration fee. Sales tax is kind of high (but only slightly less in MS), but you control that since it's somewhat of a regressive tax. Housing and other costs about the same. I lived in Florida as well - similiar, but this was decades ago. Housing costs have gone up however since I lived there. Georgia is another state that I lived in - yeah they socked it to me good there. I think it was 6% income tax.
Texas I hear has high property tax.
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Old 05-06-2021, 02:37 PM
 
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the average taxes a person pays in mississippi is $7,100
in florida it's about $10,000
tn is $8,800
tx is $12,000

this includes federal, property and other taxes like sales tax.
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Old 05-06-2021, 03:44 PM
 
Location: USA
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https://files.taxfoundation.org/2019...Day-2019-2.pdf

Scroll to page 4 and there a nice map.
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Old 05-07-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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the average taxes a person pays in mississippi is $7,100
in florida it's about $10,000
tn is $8,800
tx is $12,000

this includes federal, property and other taxes like sales tax.
Yeah but "average tax" is dependent also on "average salary/spending". This may only be indicative of the fact that people in other states make more money, live in better houses, etc. Particularly since you include federal income tax.

So really it tells us nothing.
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Old 05-07-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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SInce the last link on tax burden that someone posted was useless, here is a better link that shows tax as a percentage of personal income:

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-wit...x-burden/20494

This is highest to lowest. TN is 49th, meaning they are second to lowest tax burden in all 50 states, FL is 45th, Texas is 30th. And MS - 15th, as in 15th highest out of 50.
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