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Old 01-18-2022, 08:27 PM
 
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Would you prefer the word "death" instead of execution?
An embryo isn't really alive, in the same way that your appendix isn't really alive. If you have your appendix removed, would you be upset at "executing" it?
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Old 01-18-2022, 10:47 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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If Roe vs Wade is overturned as requested by Mississippi, I think we can look for a wave of promises of retribution. None of them will mean much. We saw the same thing back when Mississippi decided to make its own way with regard to who must serve gay people and who may decline. Promises of retribution were quickly forgotten.

Mississippi would probably quickly close its one remaining abortion clinic and make its own laws guiding the how-when-where of abortion. Information regarding abortion pills, plan B pills, and birth control procedures will quickly become more common and nothing will change in Mississippi.
Personally, I think the young women of Mississippi will be better served if the above mentioned services and devices were better advertised and offered.
Mississippi's Indian tribe could open a clinic. They're not subject to state law or policy. Tribes in other states have vowed to do so, if the states where they're located ban abortion.
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Old 01-19-2022, 11:22 AM
 
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An embryo isn't really alive, in the same way that your appendix isn't really alive. If you have your appendix removed, would you be upset at "executing" it?
Things that are not alive generally do not grow and/or develop.
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Old 01-19-2022, 02:09 PM
 
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Mississippi's Indian tribe could open a clinic. They're not subject to state law or policy. Tribes in other states have vowed to do so, if the states where they're located ban abortion.
I don’t think they would. The Choctaws are pretty conservative Christians.
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Old 01-19-2022, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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An embryo isn't really alive, in the same way that your appendix isn't really alive. If you have your appendix removed, would you be upset at "executing" it?
The DNA in my appendix is identifiable to me.

An embryo has its own DNA unique even from the mother.
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Old 01-19-2022, 06:11 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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An embryo isn't really alive, in the same way that your appendix isn't really alive. If you have your appendix removed, would you be upset at "executing" it?
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Things that are not alive generally do not grow and/or develop.
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The DNA in my appendix is identifiable to me.

An embryo has its own DNA unique even from the mother.
All true and all good arguments.
DNA is only a chemical fingerprint and exists long after - and long before - life connects it to a human. I can find DNA on an ancient bone, but the life associated with it is nowhere in sight.
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Old 01-20-2022, 04:40 PM
 
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All true and all good arguments.
DNA is only a chemical fingerprint and exists long after - and long before - life connects it to a human. I can find DNA on an ancient bone, but the life associated with it is nowhere in sight.
The DNA is different in some areas, but one thing shows the separation from the Mother, so not a part like an appendix clearly exists.

The blood is the father's not the mother's. The baby is a unique being.
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Old 01-20-2022, 04:51 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The DNA is different in some areas, but one thing shows the separation from the Mother, so not a part like an appendix clearly exists.

The blood is the father's not the mother's. The baby is a unique being.
But not until a certain point.
The emryo has its own DNA, but so do our long decayed remnants after we are dead. So the presence of a DNA signature, in itself, should not be used as a test for the presence of life.
The conversation should center around when abortion should no longer be an option. We shouldn't let the true zealots - those who say, NEVER and those who say, ON DEMAND - dominate the conversation.

I'm good with almost all options except ON DEMAND, PRE-BIRTH. That's too far for me.
Most of all I want Mississippians to make Mississippi law.
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Old 06-24-2022, 10:02 AM
 
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God bless Mississippi!
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Old 06-24-2022, 12:20 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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What part was confusing about what I said? If you want me to get political in my response, I can. Like I said - I'm fine with the parasites of society choosing to kill their would-be children all because they don't want to take responsibility for their decisions in life.
What about doctors' or lawyers' wives, senators' or oil company CEOs' daughters, etc.? OK with those choosing to kill their zygotes, too?
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