South African farm workers in Mississippi

[Suesbal]

Originally Posted by viverlibre

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Because an illegal hispanic is probably less than half the cost, plus less paperwork and hispanics generally work from can to can't and don't complain.

In MS, there are more legal hispanics doing farm labor than South Africans.

Nowadays, you’re lucky to find someone who works from “will” to “won’t”.
I think employers should hire whoever they please. They should just be upfront about it. Contrary to popular belief, not all business people are right-wing reactionaries.

[viverlibre]

Originally Posted by Suesbal

Nowadays, you’re lucky to find someone who works from “will” to “won’t”.
I think employers should hire whoever they please. They should just be upfront about it. Contrary to popular belief, not all business people are right-wing reactionaries.

My mom's roof was replaced last year by a white roofing crew (a simple 1960 ranch style house - 1600ish sf), it took them several days. My roof was replaced a few weeks ago, my house is twice the size, step pitch with many gables, etc., the hispanic crew was finished by 5pm and went to start on another house. They would have knocked out my mom's house in 3 hours.

[treemoni]

Originally Posted by jacksonpanther

lol!

Y'all thought they were maybe paying the afrikaners less than americans. Nope. All this time, the owners could have paid more to black or hispanic workers, but chose not to. Now they have the opportunity to pay white men more, and jump at the chance.

Mississippi is always gonna mississippi.

The smilie I want to use isn't showing up (but maybe it's just me), so I'll use another:

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Suesbal

Are you insinuating that because these young men are Afrikaners, they should be regarded as racist reactionaries? They grew up in post-apartheid South Africa. They aren’t living high on the hog.

What?! I'm "insinuating" that US farmers should have, could have, treated American migrant farmworkers similarly. Not sure how you could have missed that.

[viverlibre]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

What?! I'm "insinuating" that US farmers should have, could have, treated American migrant farmworkers similarly. Not sure how you could have missed that.

Really not many American migrant farm workers, at least not in the MS in the last 50 years or so. There are many hispanic migrant farm workers who stay in the US year round, but their legal status is.... "murky."

There are very few South African farm workers, and in spite of you you read, most are experienced farmers in their homeland and when they come over, they live on the farm and are essentially 24/7 labor with little time off. Again the numbers of South Africans are very low and most farmers rely on local labor.

Side note, I've seen a lot more female tractor drivers in the past few years, I think that is great.

[Listener2307]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

What?! I'm "insinuating" that US farmers should have, could have, treated American migrant farmworkers similarly. Not sure how you could have missed that.

I'm wondering how on earth you could possibly know how they were treated.
Then I'm wondering (after I assume you know something you have not revealed) what you would have done differently, since Mississippi is not known for having a plethora of wealthy farmers.


Lastly, I am wondering if you took the whole subject of "poorly treated migrant workers in Mississippi" from the Great Coloring Book of Stereotypical Ideas.

[treemoni]

Originally Posted by viverlibre

There are very few South African farm workers, and in spite of you you read, most are experienced farmers in their homeland and when they come over, they live on the farm and are essentially 24/7 labor with little time off.

Is this a...problem?

[GrandviewGloria]

Originally Posted by treemoni

Is this a...problem?

No, it's a strength. And that's what viverlibre was pointing-out. It's one of the reasons why they're worth more. Essentially, they function as surrogates for the farmer who employs them, because they're actual farmers - not "farm hands".

The current plight of the Netherlands' farmers (whom the EU is doing its best to destroy), shines a light on precisely how valuable South Africa's farmers actually are (the Afrikaners' ancestors left Holland, centuries ago, but they're essentially still Dutch). The Netherlands, despite the nation's tiny size, ranks among the top exporters of agricultural products, worldwide (sometimes listed as Number 2, right after the US).

That's because the Netherlands' farmers are very smart and very productive. They understand infrastructure. They PIONEER infrastructure, processes, and systems. And South Africa's farmers are essentially the same.

[Suesbal]

So, 11 farms have been fined what is essentially pocket change.
https://mississippitoday.org/2022/11...i-delta-farms/