How Mississippi got it's ugly reputation (Jackson, Pearl: sales, lease, movie theaters)

[WestbankNOLA]

Originally Posted by jacksonian

The biggest problem with the Two Lakes concept is that the local news media won't report the story! Or if they do, they only tell what they want about it... The local alternative paper reports on it quite a bit, but they have been against it from day one, yet they don't seem to report what the developers are doing to make the project work. From what I know, there are two options on the board [Two Lakes vs. Levees] and neither of them in their current form are good options. Levees will do nothing for economic development yet they will require over $200 million, which FEMA is hesitant to help out with due to the levees failing in New Orleans. Two Lakes would be great for economic development, but it also has financing issues as well as a possible environmental impact. We need a new, viable option.

They mentioned here that the corps wanted levees because the current lake plans means less water will travel down the river. The southern Mississippi towns along the river will supposedly suffer (don't remember how) and the it will effect the rivers ecosystem. The river empties into the Gulf in the NO metro and loss of water equals loss of wetland which equals more hurricane risk.

Anyway, I think it's just what Jackson needs. But if they plan to do the water front thing through downtown instead then maybe they won't need the lakes. I'm assuming that the land where the lakes would be dug would equal more room to develop.

[OneJackson]

Originally Posted by grindin

That could be a decent location, but it would be better to put it on a mainline interstate.


Well let's put a row of Strip Clubs all along I-55 Frontage Road and a gigantic sex shop with a 90 foot tall ceramic penis right on top of it with a beacon. Yeah, because anything is better than nothing, isn't it.

Can you read? I explained the main reason why. Gaylord Entertainment (the company that owned Opryland) wasn't getting a return on their investment on the land that Opryland sat on and figured that a shopping mall would be more profitable for them and the city in the long run.

Well if you think that, then obviously you have no knowledge of business and or how these sorts of things work.

Not necessarily. I know a lot of people who stay in the state and go to the casino when they get paid. Or go to the movies. Or go to the mall.


Again, can you read? It's really hard to argue with someone who picks and chooses what I say and misconstrues what I'm saying. I didn't even mention a movie theater, where in hell did that come from. Which would be great for the city to have right about now. I just don't think that a theme park is the best idea now, or this economic bellwether that you think it is. Again, Opryland Closed, Libertyland closed, Alabama Adventure gets about 345K visitors a year. I go by facts and logic, not BS flights of fancy that have no basis in reality. Sorry.

Well, Jackson doesn't have one. We can sit here and go back and forth about what should've, could've, would've been here, but D&B isn't here. I think that's a good place for people to go to with the family. Maybe a Medieval Times or a Mills Shopping center (sort of like Grapevine Mills or Potomac Mills) that can house these sorts of things. With a big movie theater.

Of course they would. I wanted to go to Disneyland or Sea World every chance I could, but I couldn't. People in hell want ice water, so what is your point? If you have one at all...

Lots of people don't have that kind of disposable income to go to a theme park "every chance they can get". A day at the theme park for a family of 4 can get pretty steep. A ticket at Six Flags is at least $35-40 per person. That's $140-160 for a family of four right there. Not to mention the snacks and souvineers they may be buying. Life happens and peopel could be spending that money doing other things if bills and life get in the way. Think of it like this, how many people who live in Orlando go to Disney World every chance they can get? Not retirees or snowbirds, but people who live day-to-day lives that have little things like rents or mortgages or car notes, insurance, college tuition, etc to worry about.

saving this quote so can respond later.

[grindin]

Originally Posted by OneJackson

saving this quote so can respond later.

Let's see if you can make a sound, realistic, logical argument this time.

In the words of Katt Williams, "Don't worry, I'll wait."

[GrandviewGloria]

Originally Posted by jhadorn

Are you saying you don't have proper morals? You want to have sex in public? I'm not sure what part of my post illustrated why I belong and you don't. I would say that if you want to do that, then you don't belong in ANY state in the US. My post was about public sex and nudity. Nude means your body is completely uncovered. I think you will find that isn't acceptable in nearly all places in the US, not just Mississippi.

Yes, jhadorn; I am definitely saying that I do not have "proper morals": at least not by what I'd assume to be your definition. My moral indignation has to do with the millions of people who today are held in slavery; the poisoning of our children with herbicides and pesticides; the mismanagement of nuclear waste; the traitorous elected officials of Western democracies, intent upon replacing Europeans with low-IQ Third-Worlders (whom the Corporate Oligarchs, who own the politicians, deem to be more easily controlled). There just isn't room on my moral radar screen for me to be worried about what other people do with their private parts.

People in Denmark don't have sex in public. There are certain beaches, easily avoided by those whose sense of propriety is violated by such things. I cited Denmark because it represents one end of a continuum. I would add that Denmark was named the Happiest Place on Earth, a couple of years back. The scene on their beaches reflects their high capacity for critical thinking. They are able to focus on what is important, and discount what is not important.

And I think that it says something about Mississippi that most states have a few legal venues for nudity, while Mississippi has absolutely none. It's just one more thing on the state's Absolutely None List, along with Tiffany, Neiman Marcus, and Saks Fifth Avenue.

But that subject is hardly central in my thoughts. I was much more frustrated by living in a place where educated, affluent people actually cared whose team won some stupid ballgame, and actually cared who won Miss America. And the frustration that finally nudged me to say "OK, I'm leaving Mississippi" was in regards to a building, not a "morals" issue.

[jhadorn]

Originally Posted by grindin

Well let's put a row of Strip Clubs all along I-55 Frontage Road and a gigantic sex shop with a 90 foot tall ceramic penis right on top of it with a beacon.

Move this to the 'What should be Jackson's brand' thread and we have a winner. I'd pay to see it.

Surely I jest.

[jhadorn]

Originally Posted by GrandviewGloria

Yes, jhadorn; I am definitely saying that I do not have "proper morals": at least not by what I'd assume to be your definition. My moral indignation has to do with the millions of people who today are held in slavery; the poisoning of our children with herbicides and pesticides; the mismanagement of nuclear waste; the traitorous elected officials of Western democracies, intent upon replacing Europeans with low-IQ Third-Worlders (whom the Corporate Oligarchs, who own the politicians, deem to be more easily controlled). There just isn't room on my moral radar screen for me to be worried about what other people do with their private parts.

People in Denmark don't have sex in public. There are certain beaches, easily avoided by those whose sense of propriety is violated by such things. I cited Denmark because it represents one end of a continuum. I would add that Denmark was named the Happiest Place on Earth, a couple of years back. The scene on their beaches reflects their high capacity for critical thinking. They are able to focus on what is important, and discount what is not important.

And I think that it says something about Mississippi that most states have a few legal venues for nudity, while Mississippi has absolutely none. It's just one more thing on the state's Absolutely None List, along with Tiffany, Neiman Marcus, and Saks Fifth Avenue.

But that subject is hardly central in my thoughts. I was much more frustrated by living in a place where educated, affluent people actually cared whose team won some stupid ballgame, and actually cared who won Miss America. And the frustration that finally nudged me to say "OK, I'm leaving Mississippi" was in regards to a building, not a "morals" issue.

Be careful with that Happiest place on earth thing. Ask OneJackson about it.

[jhadorn]

Originally Posted by GrandviewGloria

And I think that it says something about Mississippi that most states have a few legal venues for nudity, while Mississippi has absolutely none. It's just one more thing on the state's Absolutely None List, along with Tiffany, Neiman Marcus, and Saks Fifth Avenue.

You just described half of America. 20 states and the District of Columbia have Neiman Marcus, 29 states have Saks Fith Avenue, and 14 have Tiffany & Co.

A little research shows that in many states nudity is illegal, and SOME of them have a secluded venue for nudity, be it legal or illegal. Sounds just Like Mississippi to me. East Ship Island, before it was eroded by Hurricane Katrina was clothing optional.

Do a little research before you speak on a subject.

[GrandviewGloria]

Originally Posted by jhadorn

You just described half of America. 20 states and the District of Columbia have Neiman Marcus, 29 states have Saks Fith Avenue, and 14 have Tiffany & Co.

A little research shows that in many states nudity is illegal, and SOME of them have a secluded venue for nudity, be it legal or illegal. Sounds just Like Mississippi to me. East Ship Island, before it was eroded by Hurricane Katrina was clothing optional.

Do a little research before you speak on a subject.

I didn't say Mississippi was the only state without those things: only that they are on our list of things the state does not have. And if East Ship Island is no longer clothing-optional, then aren't you confirming what I said?

Anyway,I'll certainly acknowledge that there are many states far more desolate than Mississippi. Last time I checked, you could buy Frette linens in Mississippi, but not in North Dakota, New Mexico, or Wyoming.

And on an even more upbeat note, you're the only state with a Sweet Potato Queen Parade.

[grindin]

No Macy's in Mississippi either. You're not missing much with that store though.

[WestbankNOLA]

Originally Posted by grindin

No Macy's in Mississippi either. You're not missing much with that store though.

Dillards is better.