You okay with this? (Missoula: house, safe area, school)

[eqttrdr]

Missoula, MT refugee arrivals could begin in August, most will be Muslims



Missoula on verge of opening refugee office | Local | missoulian.com


"it’s likely that its first families will come from a population that has no family ties in the U.S. According to the Missoula Independent, those could be Syrian families of four to 10 members; Afghans; families and single-woman households from the Republic of Congo; or Rohingyas, an ethnic Muslim minority from Myanmar (Burma)."



So screw the homeless in Missoula but let's give free stuff to "refugees"?

[seww6]

Refugees doesn't have to be a problem, as long as gov't official's play it smart.
If they come, and want to stay, they'll have to know the laws and rules of the country, and if they won't accept it, send them home.


Here in Sweden, we're facing huuuge problems because of this, they bring their culture and expect us to obey that. And our gov't bends over for it.


I mean, they are people just like anybody else, but where they grew up and lived, is nothing like the Western world. But you need to steer them into the right direction and show no mercy when they break the laws and rules.
When one treat them different because if this, you've made a clear line that there's a difference in people, when there shouldn't be.
The law applies to everyone, no exceptions. (unless you're super rich, then you can get away with anything it seems like...)


It's not hard to google and see what many of the refugees is doing to Europe, but we have not had control over the situation. Sweden alone took in like 160k refugees last year, on a total population of 9 million. It's not reasonable.
We do need to help people who come from war regions, and I believe it'd be better to help them locally. Build towns in safe areas close to Syria for example, so in case they want to return home after the war, it's easier and closer.


It's a crazy time in history in the making right now and lots of bad people roaming with the crowds of fleeing individuals.

[Azzarinne]

Originally Posted by eqttrdr

So screw the homeless in Missoula but let's give free stuff to "refugees"?

In Missoula, we have lots of resources to help homeless people. People who don't utilize those resources either actively choose to remain homeless or have one or more mental issues that prevent them from fully understanding either their situation, the options available to them, or both. There's also the issue of pride. A lot of people, many of them veterans, aren't willing to accept help, figuring that if they can't get what they want themselves, they don't deserve it, or the world is against them.

So no, it's not "screw the homeless in Missoula." Unfortunately, a lot of them are screwing themselves.

Also, refugees aren't getting piles of "free stuff." They're getting help escaping a situation where their lives were in danger, establishing themselves in a place that's very strange to them, and becoming productive members of a new society. The vast majority, if not all, of the ones arriving soon have been going through this process for YEARS: quarantine, health screenings, immunizations, background checks, risk assessments, questioning... they've all been through a battery of tests and interrogations that most US-born people never have to go through, and that someone with ill intentions would have trouble getting through. This isn't the kind of process that people who just want to suckle the government teet are willing to do.

Tl;dr, yes, I'm okay with it.

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by Azzarinne

In Missoula, we have lots of resources to help homeless people. People who don't utilize those resources either actively choose to remain homeless or have one or more mental issues that prevent them from fully understanding either their situation, the options available to them, or both. There's also the issue of pride. A lot of people, many of them veterans, aren't willing to accept help, figuring that if they can't get what they want themselves, they don't deserve it, or the world is against them.

So no, it's not "screw the homeless in Missoula." Unfortunately, a lot of them are screwing themselves.

Also, refugees aren't getting piles of "free stuff." They're getting help escaping a situation where their lives were in danger, establishing themselves in a place that's very strange to them, and becoming productive members of a new society. The vast majority, if not all, of the ones arriving soon have been going through this process for YEARS: quarantine, health screenings, immunizations, background checks, risk assessments, questioning... they've all been through a battery of tests and interrogations that most US-born people never have to go through, and that someone with ill intentions would have trouble getting through. This isn't the kind of process that people who just want to suckle the government teet are willing to do.

Tl;dr, yes, I'm okay with it.

San Francisco has the most resources for this.

[eqttrdr]

Originally Posted by Azzarinne

In Missoula, we have lots of resources to help homeless people. People who don't utilize those resources either actively choose to remain homeless or have one or more mental issues that prevent them from fully understanding either their situation, the options available to them, or both. There's also the issue of pride. A lot of people, many of them veterans, aren't willing to accept help, figuring that if they can't get what they want themselves, they don't deserve it, or the world is against them.

So no, it's not "screw the homeless in Missoula." Unfortunately, a lot of them are screwing themselves.

Also, refugees aren't getting piles of "free stuff." They're getting help escaping a situation where their lives were in danger, establishing themselves in a place that's very strange to them, and becoming productive members of a new society. The vast majority, if not all, of the ones arriving soon have been going through this process for YEARS: quarantine, health screenings, immunizations, background checks, risk assessments, questioning... they've all been through a battery of tests and interrogations that most US-born people never have to go through, and that someone with ill intentions would have trouble getting through. This isn't the kind of process that people who just want to suckle the government teet are willing to do.

Tl;dr, yes, I'm okay with it.

wow.. just wow... I hope this is a troll post

RIP USA

[Dangerous Dave]

The USA has taken 70% of the world's refugees in the last 40 years. We need a break.


Personally, I think if the refugees were going to be such a plus to the areas they're being located in, the DC mob would keep them in their own neighborhoods. They're not.


I think we should be taking care of our own for ten years or so. Just a breather. I'm not against taking refugees, we just need to fix some things in our own house for awhile.

[mrwumpus]

The Muslim couple that murdered 14 co-workers last year in California at a Christmas party had been thrown a baby shower by the same people earlier that year.

Islam teaches that we are infidels who deserve death or subjugation. Every Muslim refugee believes this. 51% of American Muslims believe sharia law trumps the Constitution, which means wife beating and throwing gays off buildings is the law for them.

I watched Muslim families move into our neighborhood in California. After you get over the initial multi-cultural thrill of seeing someone wearing a head scarf, you realize these people want nothing to do with us or our traditions or values. Their men scowl and do not talk to you, and their women wear headscarves or in some cases full body burkas with just eye slits, and are forced to trail behind their husbands in public and not allowed to talk to other men. They have large families like six children and teach them to follow Islam. The mosques teach them exactly what Islam has taught for centuries, which is incompatible with the broadest American values. Eventually once they grow in population they begin demanding accommodations for their beliefs, like taking pork from school lunch menus which has happened in several European cities already.

So have fun with your refugees and if you start working with them, I'd advise you avoid the baby showers and Christmas parties because they actually believe their faith, unlike most Americans.

[waltcolorado]

Birth rate - Country Comparison

Im not sure how accurate this web site is but even sort of accurate its interesting..

Syria birth rate compared to the US ratio = 1.69
Afgan birth rate compared to the US ratio = 2.89
Congo birth rate compared to the US ration = 2.68

We need to keep taking the displaced population of the world**... you wouldn't want those places with out of control birth rates to get too full would you?

[historyfan]

Walt, what are the infant mortality rates? I'd guess pretty high.

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by waltcolorado

Birth rate - Country Comparison

Im not sure how accurate this web site is but even sort of accurate its interesting..

Syria birth rate compared to the US ratio = 1.69
Afgan birth rate compared to the US ratio = 2.89
Congo birth rate compared to the US ration = 2.68

We need to keep taking the displaced population of the world**... you wouldn't want those places with out of control birth rates to get too full would you?

pOPULATION control is needed.