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Old 07-12-2008, 03:05 AM
 
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Okay! Let me start by saying I am not looking to try to stop people from moving here but, rather, inform others of my experience. I am one of those guys that grew up in a small mountain town that was invaded by out-of-staters and decided to move to Missoula thinking Montana couldn't possibly be too crowded. I was wrong! I have seen nothing but traffic and urban sprawl since I have lived here and now it is time for me to leave. There are traffic jams on the east side by the University, traffic downtown, traffic west to Russel and Reserve Street and all the way to the town of Lolo on Highway 93. That's like 20 miles of traffic! Additionally, I have seen development occur at breakneck speed, reaching the foothills and currently expanding up the mountains (ie. Mansion Heights). I know, I know it is all relative. And for those moving from large cities you will think you are in paradise, but for those looking for the paradise they lost, you might be disappointed.
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Old 07-12-2008, 06:35 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I don't disagree, Missoula is very busy even compared to Kalispell but Kalispell is doing it's level best to catch up. Thankfully there's still many rural areas within 12 miles of Kalispell but they're being squeezed between fast growing cities of Whitefish and Kalispell.
Such a pity...
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:34 AM
 
Location: In The Outland
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Missoula is anything but what an example of what Montana is like. If you live in Missoula and only visit or see the surrounding suburban areas then you totally missed Montana.
Here are some picture links for ya all. I'm sure a bunch of folks on this board have seen some of these pictures before but I just thought this was a good post to show them again. I rarely go back over to the Missoula or Flathead areas anymore. Even though so much of western Montana hasn't been paved over yet, at the rate it's going, folks better start thinking about reserving green belts or both valleys will end up looking like the San Fernando Valley right under our noses. In a way I'm glad our little town is shrinking ! Conrad is still stuck in the 50s and folks still hold doors open and even stop for you to cross the street !
The pics in these photo links include pictures of both sides of the Rocky Mountains in Montana.

Picasa Web Albums - Rick - Pics of the R...


Picasa Web Albums - Rick - fawna and flora


Picasa Web Albums - Rick - 2003 pics


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Old 07-13-2008, 08:12 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Missoula is anything but what an example of what Montana is like. If you live in Missoula and only visit or see the surrounding suburban areas then you totally missed Montana.
Here are some picture links for ya all. I'm sure a bunch of folks on this board have seen some of these pictures before but I just thought this was a good post to show them again. I rarely go back over to the Missoula or Flathead areas anymore. Even though so much of western Montana hasn't been paved over yet, at the rate it's going, folks better start thinking about reserving green belts or both valleys will end up looking like the San Fernando Valley right under our noses. In a way I'm glad our little town is shrinking ! Conrad is still stuck in the 50s and folks still hold doors open and even stop for you to cross the street !
The pics in these photo links include pictures of both sides of the Rocky Mountains in Montana.

Picasa Web Albums - Rick - Pics of the R...


Picasa Web Albums - Rick - fawna and flora


Picasa Web Albums - Rick - 2003 pics


Picasa Web Albums - Rick - Guess what ri...
Off topic for a minute, how's the store going? Tourists keeping you busy I hope?
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:55 AM
 
Location: In The Outland
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Yup ! Way to busy than I want to be ! It's really my wife's little store in front but the back room is mine !!! I don't get any time for fishing and river floats. Now my old 85 Toyota PU is down, so I'm sure glad to be in Conrad rather than Missoula as I can walk one block to everything. I'd be screwed without a car or truck in Missoula and as the O.P. said the traffic is really bad there, at least by Montana standards !
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Old 07-13-2008, 12:23 PM
 
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I remember Conrad! I went hunting once in Valier and, afterward, decided to go bowling at Conrad's little bowling alley. We kept getting mad because the ball would never get returned, but all in all, we had a good time.
Anyway, about Missoula. I temporarily lived at my relative's place above the proposed JTL site out by Lolo. The house has a clear view of the Miller Creek/ Walmart area of west Missoula. Over time my relatives took pictures in that direction and, let me tell you, it is freaky to see the clear hill, then some houses, then houses covering the hill, and now, houses virtually bordering the Bitteroot River.
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:42 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Yup ! Way to busy than I want to be ! It's really my wife's little store in front but the back room is mine !!! I don't get any time for fishing and river floats. Now my old 85 Toyota PU is down, so I'm sure glad to be in Conrad rather than Missoula as I can walk one block to everything. I'd be screwed without a car or truck in Missoula and as the O.P. said the traffic is really bad there, at least by Montana standards !
Well not to get you down but I'm going floating tomorrow! Had shoulder surgery 8 weeks ago and just got cleared to row..Get the truck going and maybe we'll see ya out there!!!!
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:01 AM
 
Location: In The Outland
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We're working on it ! I'm jonsing for a river run. The Marias from Tiber Dam to Moffit Bridge ! Let me quess ; your going from Teakettle to old steel bridge ?
Was I close ?
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Golden, CO
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I was once like you and thought the traffic in Missoula was bad. Growing up there I had seen it get worse and worse. Finally I moved 6 years ago out of state to places that actually have bad traffic. it is humorous to think what I used to call bad traffic.


What also makes Missoula better is, even if you are driving WAY to the other side of town, its only 7 miles or so LMAO. Heck it takes 5 miles for me to get to the highway to start driving my 30 miles to work. in far worse traffic than Missoula ever has.

Now I do miss the Missoula of the 70s and 80s, fewer people fewer cars, no Californians etc. However, again, now that IM out in the real world, I can see things how the people who are moving to Montana see it, and its not as bad as most native Montana’s think. The traffic is just one of the down sides. Progress always has good and bad things to it.
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:17 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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We're working on it ! I'm jonsing for a river run. The Marias from Tiber Dam to Moffit Bridge ! Let me quess ; your going from Teakettle to old steel bridge ?
Was I close ?
Nope, Blankenship to C-Falls and boy did we get burnt! Missed ya!!!
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