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Old 04-22-2011, 08:59 PM
 
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State Government Seizes thousands of Missouri Newspapers, Machines and Company money without notice.
MOD CUT Rest-stop newsrack ban struck down

Seeking comments on one of the most flagrant governmental violations of constitutional rights in many years.

Last edited by linicx; 04-22-2011 at 10:24 PM.. Reason: 1/10 Rule. You do not have enough posts to add a link. Read the rules.
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Old 04-22-2011, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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There is a conflct of interest. The interstate routes are federally owned. The rest stops and the land it occupies is owned/leased by the state; it is no owned and maintained by "the public". The state has a right to designate the type of vending machines placed on state owned/leased property - due to the expected amount of trash said machine may create.

The state also has an obligation to protect the public, and as such it can remove all vending machines and close all rest stops across the state - if it so choses. If this becomes a protracted fight, it may. I do no believe a Larry Flynn fight in Missouri will fly very far.

Which would you rather have? A: The clean rest stop for sleepy drivers or B: Access to adult content? Missouri happens to have some of the best rest stops in the nation between the Mississipi River and the Pacific Ocean.

I am quite sure the owner of said vending machine has been notified at some time to remove his machines. I am equally sure he can make arrangements to pick them up and the money collected in said machines - minus the expenses incurred by the state to do it for him. However, if they are in a court battle, the machines may well remain in the care and custody of the state; wouldn't surprise me a bit.
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:21 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Which would you rather have? A: The clean rest stop for sleepy drivers or B: Access to adult content? Missouri happens to have some of the best rest stops in the nation between the Mississipi River and the Pacific Ocean.
Hear! Hear! Driving out from the left coast on our retirement move to Missouri we were greatly impressed by the rest stops. Porn provides no value added. Next up, I hope, the related billboards. There's freedom, then there's smut!
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Old 04-23-2011, 05:06 PM
 
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What the heck is this thread about? Anyone have a link?
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Old 04-24-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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There is a conflct of interest. The interstate routes are federally owned. The rest stops and the land it occupies is owned/leased by the state; it is no owned and maintained by "the public". The state has a right to designate the type of vending machines placed on state owned/leased property - due to the expected amount of trash said machine may create.

The state also has an obligation to protect the public, and as such it can remove all vending machines and close all rest stops across the state - if it so choses. If this becomes a protracted fight, it may. I do no believe a Larry Flynn fight in Missouri will fly very far.

Which would you rather have? A: The clean rest stop for sleepy drivers or B: Access to adult content? Missouri happens to have some of the best rest stops in the nation between the Mississipi River and the Pacific Ocean.

I am quite sure the owner of said vending machine has been notified at some time to remove his machines. I am equally sure he can make arrangements to pick them up and the money collected in said machines - minus the expenses incurred by the state to do it for him. However, if they are in a court battle, the machines may well remain in the care and custody of the state; wouldn't surprise me a bit.
I agree with most of what you posted but, I have to take issue with Missouri having some of the best rest stops. You need to see and enjoy NM rest stops and they have more of them, which is really nice for us old women. Yes, MO rest stops are nice, but they pale in comparrison to some out there.
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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.we have posted 8 pages of information on a non commercial informational, site, the constitutional effects and laws pertaining to the 22 newspapers affected here, in a forum established for 18 years.

Rest-stop newsrack ban struck down
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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There is a conflct of interest. The interstate routes are federally owned. The rest stops and the land it occupies is owned/leased by the state; it is no owned and maintained by "the public". The state has a right to designate the type of vending machines placed on state owned/leased property - due to the expected amount of trash said machine may create.

The state also has an obligation to protect the public, and as such it can remove all vending machines and close all rest stops across the state - if it so choses. If this becomes a protracted fight, it may. I do no believe a Larry Flynn fight in Missouri will fly very far.

Which would you rather have? A: The clean rest stop for sleepy drivers or B: Access to adult content? Missouri happens to have some of the best rest stops in the nation between the Mississipi River and the Pacific Ocean.

I am quite sure the owner of said vending machine has been notified at some time to remove his machines. I am equally sure he can make arrangements to pick them up and the money collected in said machines - minus the expenses incurred by the state to do it for him. However, if they are in a court battle, the machines may well remain in the care and custody of the state; wouldn't surprise me a bit.


[FONT=font-family:segoe tv,Arial,Verdana]We are one of many newspaper distributors of 22 newspapers such as USA today at Missouri rest areas. There are no pornographic newspapers distributed at rest areas.

We distributed 5 and did the litigation that opened up rest areas to first amendment protected newspaper distribution.

We assembled an 8 page non commercial
website of legal positions and court rulings etc including one upheld by the St Louis U.S. Court of Appeals (8th Cir.) which upheld a federal District Court ruling that state regulations limiting vending machines at rest stops violate a newspaper publisher's First Amendment rights.
http://missouri.violatesrights.com/

We had filed twice before siezure, that we had a constitutionally protected right to distribute there, that in addition to several court rulings, they had opened it up to many first amendment activities including registering voters, handing out political literature.. for 18 years thereby making it a dedicated public forum.

They never acknowledged that and despite four inquiries and two responses do not directly admit to four direct inquiries that they have siezed our newspapers.

Also that we were entitled to be notified and granted a hearing under the due process provisions of the constitution

Rest areas are paid for by the Federal government and managed and maintained by the state government. Thus they are paid for and owned by the public and all constitutional rights apply there as any where else in Missouri.

Read up on the subject of the importance of newspaper to free societys. The people of Missouri have a right to recieve literature, and have obtained 22 newspapers for 18 years and have a right to continue to do so.

U.S. Supreme Court in Martin Vs Struthers......

The Court held that the First Amendment protects both "the right to distribute literature" and "the right to receive it" and stated that the distribution of literature is protected "even if it creates the minor nuisance for a community of cleaning liter from its streets." Justice Hugo Black, writing the opinion of the court,.....-Wikipedia [/font]
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Old 04-24-2011, 12:22 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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While I cannot argue with the Constitutional and legal issues and am forced to agree with them, it becomes a matter of good taste vs. bad, civility and decency. Obviously, those are beyond some, being over-ridden by pursuit of the almighty dollar. Pity!
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Old 04-24-2011, 04:12 PM
 
Location: in a pond with the other human scum
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I guess you didn't want to do business with the Missouri Association of Sheltered Workshop Managers, who have the exclusive license to authorize publishers to place publication vending racks at Missouri rest stops.

No, I have no special knowledge. It took me all of 30 seconds to find this. If you tried to place your racks without knowing of this arrangement, then you now have someone to contact. If you tried to do an end run around them, though, you should be honest and say so.

No one's interfering with your free speech or freedom of the press rights.
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:57 PM
 
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I agree with most of what you posted but, I have to take issue with Missouri having some of the best rest stops. You need to see and enjoy NM rest stops and they have more of them, which is really nice for us old women. Yes, MO rest stops are nice, but they pale in comparrison to some out there.
They pale in comparison to most states in which I've traveled.
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