02-01-2012, 06:31 AM
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I plan on building myself a tumbleweed on the back of a trailer. (look up tumbleweed tiny house co if your unfamiliar) The problem is that I can't build it in my backyard because of dumb city laws and it would be too tall to build in my garage. So what if I rented a lot at an RV trailer and boat storage place and built it in my paid for lot? Would that work? Also, would I be able to live in my trailer at the storage place once its complete if the place has 24 hour access? If I cant do that I'm planning on putting an ad on Craigslist for private outdoor travel trailer storage on the corner of someone's rural property where I would pay them rent to have it there and then I would just live there. Btw I currently live in lake st Louis Missouri and plan on living in my tumbleweed in foristell Missouri if I cant live in it at the storage facility. Also, I would be living in it for only 1 year so that I can save up money so i can go back to college. Then I would most likely move out of it but hold on to it and use it as an actual travel trailer for road trips and whatnot.
02-01-2012, 07:08 AM
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I plan on building myself a tumbleweed on the back of a trailer. (look up tumbleweed tiny house co if your unfamiliar) The problem is that I can't build it in my backyard because of dumb city laws and it would be too tall to build in my garage. So what if I rented a lot at an RV trailer and boat storage place and built it in my paid for lot? Would that work? Also, would I be able to live in my trailer at the storage place once its complete if the place has 24 hour access? If I cant do that I'm planning on putting an ad on Craigslist for private outdoor travel trailer storage on the corner of someone's rural property where I would pay them rent to have it there and then I would just live there. Btw I currently live in lake st Louis Missouri and plan on living in my tumbleweed in foristell Missouri if I cant live in it at the storage facility. Also, I would be living in it for only 1 year so that I can save up money so i can go back to college. Then I would most likely move out of it but hold on to it and use it as an actual travel trailer for road trips and whatnot.
What are you going to pull it with? Not a car, that's forsure....
02-01-2012, 01:51 PM
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I plan on building myself a tumbleweed on the back of a trailer. (look up tumbleweed tiny house co if your unfamiliar) The problem is that I can't build it in my backyard because of dumb city laws and it would be too tall to build in my garage. So what if I rented a lot at an RV trailer and boat storage place and built it in my paid for lot? Would that work? Also, would I be able to live in my trailer at the storage place once its complete if the place has 24 hour access? If I cant do that I'm planning on putting an ad on Craigslist for private outdoor travel trailer storage on the corner of someone's rural property where I would pay them rent to have it there and then I would just live there. Btw I currently live in lake st Louis Missouri and plan on living in my tumbleweed in foristell Missouri if I cant live in it at the storage facility. Also, I would be living in it for only 1 year so that I can save up money so i can go back to college. Then I would most likely move out of it but hold on to it and use it as an actual travel trailer for road trips and whatnot.
Uh, no, storage facilities are not places to live, even if you are storing your trailer/RV there. It is highly unlikely you will find a manager or owner of such a storage facility allowing you to live on their property in the maner you have described.
I would suggest holding off on the construction of the tumbleweed and looking into becoming a dormitory RA on campus with your living provided for by the college/university as a means to save money and have a place to live.
02-01-2012, 08:09 PM
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What are you going to pull it with? Not a car, that's forsure....
My friend has a very large truck that I could borrow to tow it or I could rent a UHaul towing truck to tow it. I would only need to move it once from the lot to where ever I end up setting up camp.
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You'd be better off buying one of these, used.....less weight and much cheaper than building out of wood...
I am going to build a house, not a tin can. I would need to frame that with wood anyway for the insulation. I plan on making it just like you would make any other house with siding, a gable roof, and wiring.
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Uh, no, storage facilities are not places to live, even if you are storing your trailer/RV there. It is highly unlikely you will find a manager or owner of such a storage facility allowing you to live on their property in the maner you have described.
I know they aren't meant to be lived in, but is there an actual law or zoning issue against it? If it has 24hr access that means that theoretically I could just be working on fixing up my trailer 24/7 and I just so happen to take a 6 hour nap on the job every now and then. From what I've learned, houses permanently built on a tow-able trailer count as a trailer, not a house and that's how people are able to live in tumbleweeds and get past the minimum square footage laws. Anyway, I would only have to stay there until I found someone willing to let me park on their land. That's where I really hope I don't run into any trouble and since it will only be for a year or so I think I will be ok unless someone really hates small houses and reports me or something. Could someone do that and make me leave?
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I would suggest holding off on the construction of the tumbleweed and looking into becoming a dormitory RA on campus with your living provided for by the college/university as a means to save money and have a place to live.
I appreciate the suggestion, but I'm dead set on building a tumbleweed. It's how I want to live and I will still have it after college as a vacation home / travel trailer or maybe even a permanent residence if I really like living in it.
Oh and thanks for the comments guys I appreciate it!
02-06-2012, 04:49 PM
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02-06-2012, 05:15 PM
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One of the terms of service - those pesky forum rules you agreed you had read when you signed up to citydata - "Do not post in your thread ("bumping" it) just to have it appear on the top of the forum."
If I had a question about a law or zoning regulation in a particular community, I would probably call the courthouse of that community and ask them.
As to state law -
Self Storage Laws - Missouri "Leased space not to be used as residence--operator may enter space, when--occupant to furnish operator certain information."
02-16-2012, 09:52 PM
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What I would say is at the cost of material today, you could possibly be better off renovating an old style Air Stream travel trailor. You will learn pleanty about construction, weather, electricity and plumbing before you are done. When you are done you won't have any trouble with the law or with an RV park. It will last a long time and you will get your money back when you sell it.
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02-27-2012, 11:33 AM
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Great suggestion about the travel trailer but they are very specific in materials and techniques in order to fix them , and you would be entering into the automotive world too if you aren't already able to tow it...meaning the wheels, frame, axel, ties etc etc. I have one...I bought it "fully restored" the problem was the guy skipped the step he couldn't do and that was repairing the frame hidden under the shell. One years later via 60 years of electrolosys the frame gave way...here came the $4,000 repair bill by a very specialized fellow who restores these trailers for a living. I wouldn't get involved in these unless you want to keep it long term, that said they are great. A 1950's canned Ham might be the way to go. You can get them cheap if you look and fix up as was suggested but watch out....you need to see what is under the floor unfortunately.
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The Air Stream was always well constructed, and the original was built to be towed by a car. Generally speaking these trailors were top of the line and very well cared for. I would not expect to see frame damage unless the unit was in a tornado, a flood or a major accident.
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People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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