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Old 08-22-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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Yeah, I'm not saying the anti-abortion point of view is extreme. His misunderstanding of how biology works and his approach is extreme. MO could put in another anti-abortion GOPr on the ticket, but not him. Voting for him is telling the world you don't know how the reproduction system works.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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Akin 'legitimate rape' reaction, from the Congo to black crickets - CNN.com

An entire political party in one of the most advanced and educated countries on earth has become a caricature of the most basal evolved insecurities about masculinity
Rob Brooks, University of NSW

The Republican party is sure making Missourians look a bit stupid. imo
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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32,000 women become preganant yearly from rape -- that's about 5% of total rapes. (which makes his apology to the "thousands" of women who are raped each year even more disingenuous. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of women are raped each year)

Anyone who says otherwise has an agenda.

Rape-related pregnancy: estimates and de... [Am J Obstet Gynecol. 1996] - PubMed - NCBI
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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Boone County Republicans reject call for Akin to quit | The Columbia Daily Tribune - Columbia, Missouri

I am disappointed with the Republican leadership. They are just a lynch mob.”

Seems to be some back biting going on.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Given the fact this is not merely a blunder but highlights how the man thinks (1, Is there "legitimate" rape? 2, Using his logic, if a women was pregnant from rape....then she really wasnt "raped) and given a year or so ago when he professed "Liberals hate God", the man is ignorant.

The only way anyone can vote for him because of their blind, ignorant hatred of Democrats.
not entirely true, he also presumably will garner the rapists vote as well.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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not entirely true, he also presumably will garner the rapists vote as well.
How many votes will that be?
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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With all the stir here in the case of this social issue triggered by Akin having terminal brain constipation, it is my contention, that still, ultimately, this misstep sways very few votes. Most people who favor income redistribution from earners to those in need will favor McCaskill. Those who desire lower taxes will go for Akin. That is how most elections are decided, have been decided, and will be in the foreseeable future.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:59 PM
 
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If that's the case could you explain the 20+ point differentials for women in many states when it comes to Obama vs. Romney this year?

They're being swayed by something and it seems naive to think it has nothing to do with the 1,000 anti-women bills that have been introduced or passed in the U.S. since 2010.

I'm no great fan of the culture wars, but I'm not going to pretend they don't exist.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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If that's the case could you explain the 20+ point differentials for women in many states when it comes to Obama vs. Romney this year?

They're being swayed by something and it seems naive to think it has nothing to do with the 1,000 anti-women bills that have been introduced or passed in the U.S. since 2010.

I'm no great fan of the culture wars, but I'm not going to pretend they don't exist.
I think Arag, when it comes to politics, generally speaking, you have capitalism versus collectivism and empathy. Women, by nature, I believe, and this is GENERALLY speaking, are more empathetic souls than us more crumudgeonly men. Empathy and compassion, in turn, trigger provisions and care. Government as a means to provide such care when there is no other means available, versus a more Darwinist approach, I think there is definitely a gender gap when it comes to the role of government in this regard. And in turn, this philosophy must be paid for. That's where higher taxes come into play. That's just my own personal belief, and it can most likely be debunked, because you seem like a lot brighter person than I am when it comes to the finer machinations of politics and social commentary.

The gender supposition I painted here can also be extended to racial and ethnic groups as well, I believe. Capitalism is a relatively recent form or economic practice, and has its origins in western Europe. Western Europe is where most white people today can trace their heritage to. Lassiez faire, limited government is the basis behind the economic model, and again, low taxation and regulation are at the heart of this model.

Collectivism has been the model in most other regions. Not surprisingly, for this reason, I believe most cultures that are outside of this western European model will find the income redistribution model more to their liking, because this form of economic behavior connotes collectivism. Democrats, for the most part, favor higher taxes on the wealthy, which involves redistribution of income, or 'spreadig the wealth around'. I think this explains the high disparity in not only gender, but also racial and ethnic demographics as well, as it relates to party ID. That is why Republicans are strident with the 'no higher taxes on any bracket' mantra. That is the bedrock that keeps the white male voting block galvanized. If the Republicans lose that core message, then their platform frays.

With that said, I, as a white male, am not going to vote for Akin in this upcoming election, because I try to take in the entirety of a candidate's message, and when someone sputters with jargon that borders on incoherent, I cannot trust him or her for high office, regardless of party affiliation. However, I think I am in the minority. Most people at heart are ideologues, and that ideology is wrapped around the economic role of what government should do as it pertains to financing itself.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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So why has the gap for women between Rs and Ds grown so much? They were no where near so high in previous elections.

You're telling me you do not think this is because of the 1,000 anti-women bills that have surfaced in the U.S. since 2000, but rather because of empathy as a whole?

Frankly I don't buy it. Empathy is one thing (and I am the true, stereotypical "bleeding heart" liberal, so I totally understand what you mean), but self preservation is a far greater motivator.
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