Where in Missouri does the South begin? (Sikeston, Jackson: tax, cost)

[GunnerTHB]

Originally Posted by STLviaMSP

"How tolerant and accepting of you."

Here's the thing. I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'm sure I sound like one. The south has plenty of progressives, but they are far far far outnumbered by the knuckledraggers - to a much greater degree than in other regions. It is the region we have always had to drag kicking and screaming into the present - up to and including now. For every progressive that can look at the region's problems objectively, there seem to be a thousand knuckledraggers in the public eye. I feel for southern progressives that are up against such an insurmountable wall of backwardness. It must be very hard, very depressing, very dispiriting. And I welcome them if they want to come to the Midwest or anywhere else, because they get it. But the others, no.

Well I don't know what to tell you. I understand that you don't agree with most southerners politically but that doesn't make them bad people, and just because someone identifies as conservative doesn't make them a knuckledragger. I consider myself to be fiscally conservative and somewhat liberal socially. I am studying engineering so it is pretty hard for someone like myself to be "anti-science". The nutjobs will always be the ones getting the attention.

[MOKAN]

This conversation is hilarious. I wonder what it would look like if it were reversed and true (or deep) Southerners were running the conversation.

[MoSouthernMan]

Originally Posted by MOKAN

This conversation is hilarious. I wonder what it would look like if it were reversed and true (or deep) Southerners were running the conversation.

There are a few southerners posting in this thread. THB is one of them.

[jonsereed]

On another board I often chat with an older MO gentleman, still living on the family farm of his birth between Sikeston and Cape G.. I asked him if he thought of himself and his area as southern , or midwest ....he answered he never really thought about it and didnt seem to care either way.

Contrast that with some people on here who appear obsessed with the labels and cant post about anything else.

[stlouisan]

Originally Posted by jonsereed

On another board I often chat with an older MO gentleman, still living on the family farm of his birth between Sikeston and Cape G.. I asked him if he thought of himself and his area as southern , or midwest ....he answered he never really thought about it and didnt seem to care either way.

Contrast that with some people on here who appear obsessed with the labels and cant post about anything else.

He would be a Southerner. that area is among the most southern parts of Missouri...it is essentially 100% southern down there.

[MoSouthernMan]

Originally Posted by stlouisan

He would be a Southerner. that area is among the most southern parts of Missouri...it is essentially 100% southern down there.

Agree. Scott County essentially it is southern, but I would think Kennett, Caruthersville would be the most southern parts of the state.

[SW Missouri Dave]

Originally Posted by jonsereed

On another board I often chat with an older MO gentleman, still living on the family farm of his birth between Sikeston and Cape G.. I asked him if he thought of himself and his area as southern , or midwest ....he answered he never really thought about it and didnt seem to care either way.

Contrast that with some people on here who appear obsessed with the labels and cant post about anything else.

Originally Posted by stlouisan

He would be a Southerner. that area is among the most southern parts of Missouri...it is essentially 100% southern down there.

Originally Posted by MoSouthernMan

Agree. Scott County essentially it is southern, but I would think Kennett, Caruthersville would be the most southern parts of the state.

Well it didn't take long to prove jonse's point. 39 minutes to be exact.

Oh and and welcome back onegoal/and your new forum name this week. How many different names have you used to keep bumping this thread to the front page? Maybe the moderators have grown tired of banning you.

[STLviaMSP]

Originally Posted by GunnerTHB

Well I don't know what to tell you. I understand that you don't agree with most southerners politically but that doesn't make them bad people, and just because someone identifies as conservative doesn't make them a knuckledragger. I consider myself to be fiscally conservative and somewhat liberal socially. I am studying engineering so it is pretty hard for someone like myself to be "anti-science". The nutjobs will always be the ones getting the attention.

Individually most people are nice. But a bad culture is a bad culture. It's hard enough to get the right things done in MO, if at all. We don't need even more cultural force pushing backwards.

[MoSouthernMan]

Originally Posted by STLviaMSP

Individually most people are nice. But a bad culture is a bad culture. It's hard enough to get the right things done in MO, if at all. We don't need even more cultural force pushing backwards.

What are these "right things?"

[STLviaMSP]

For starters:

Repeal the Hancock Amendment.
End term limits.
Stop passing stupid gun laws that violate Federal law and will only cost the state through the nose in legal expenses. Build a well-run insurance exchange in compliance with the ACA.
Bump up historical tax credits.
Use state taxes instead of property taxes to fund public schools so there is less variation in funding of school districts.
Fund light rail and high speed rail projects aggressively.
Fiber in rural Missouri

etc


That's just for starters.