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Missouri has, I believe, the second-highest rate of smoking in the country, behind only North Carolina. It’s turned into a class marker— lower-class rural people smoke, middle-class and professional people don’t. There are, of course, exceptions, but that’s what I’ve seen in my 20 years here. So yep, smoking is still allowed in places in Ashland and Fulton, and those places buy tv ads proclaiming its availability.
There’s a shabby little casino down the road in Boonville, too.
I could be wrong - the state itself is not smoke free. Some cities and counties ARE. St. Louis City. St. Louis County and Jackson County (KC) are. I thought Columbia OR Boone County was smoke free as well. I would have to confirm by checking online.
I unfortunately have had a bad experience with Columbia. To the tune of literally being snubbed.
Missouri is affordable to many of us that live in higher cost areas. Such as in my case retired, and needing cheaper and a less stressful environment than Florida.
So I chose Columbia since it would be a more liberal open minded region in the state. I was aware I needed that. I wasn't after the bigger Metros. I contacted 3 organizations. 1 a social group for the over 55 set. The other 2 were businesses involved with living there. I called, sent emails, texts left messages. No replies. I started wondering what is with these people, I finally got the social group to email me. Only because I text so often to force the reply. They said they had been incredibly rude for not answering all those requests. If I had further questions they were there to reply. I had questions about attending their social gatherings and heard nothing back. The businesses one being a realtor. Well they never contacted me not even once. I even sent them a registered letter. I got the return receipt but never contact with them. The other business or organization same exact behaviour. Absolutely nothing. Definitely not a welcoming experience.
So today I left them all a final message that read. I realize people are busy but there is no excuse for ignoring innocent people. People that are trying to establish themselves in the community. This has been going on for 6 weeks, I don't understand this type of behaviour and I would not live in such a place.
Perhaps they did me a favor. That to me is a pattern when 3 different outfits all act this way. Especially the realtor. I would think they would want the business. Its as if they have some way of picking and choosing their clientelle. I really did feel snubbed by this city, and im not even there. Is this type of snobbishness common there. I've never experienced this before from so many. You really can't blame someone for questioning is the entire region like what I described. Maybe its a place one really needs to be from there, to understand the people there. Cause I don't.
I unfortunately have had a bad experience with Columbia. To the tune of literally being snubbed.
Missouri is affordable to many of us that live in higher cost areas. Such as in my case retired, and needing cheaper and a less stressful environment than Florida.
So I chose Columbia since it would be a more liberal open minded region in the state. I was aware I needed that. I wasn't after the bigger Metros. I contacted 3 organizations. 1 a social group for the over 55 set. The other 2 were businesses involved with living there. I called, sent emails, texts left messages. No replies. I started wondering what is with these people, I finally got the social group to email me. Only because I text so often to force the reply. They said they had been incredibly rude for not answering all those requests. If I had further questions they were there to reply. I had questions about attending their social gatherings and heard nothing back. The businesses one being a realtor. Well they never contacted me not even once. I even sent them a registered letter. I got the return receipt but never contact with them. The other business or organization same exact behaviour. Absolutely nothing. Definitely not a welcoming experience.
So today I left them all a final message that read. I realize people are busy but there is no excuse for ignoring innocent people. People that are trying to establish themselves in the community. This has been going on for 6 weeks, I don't understand this type of behaviour and I would not live in such a place.
Perhaps they did me a favor. That to me is a pattern when 3 different outfits all act this way. Especially the realtor. I would think they would want the business. Its as if they have some way of picking and choosing their clientelle. I really did feel snubbed by this city, and im not even there. Is this type of snobbishness common there. I've never experienced this before from so many. You really can't blame someone for questioning is the entire region like what I described. Maybe its a place one really needs to be from there, to understand the people there. Cause I don't.
Sorry to hear of your experiences there. Sounds like you have made every attempt to be a part of those social groups. I realize St. Louis is a larger area, and when I moved here at 30, it is younger than your move to Columbia. I signed up to play sports, and met my friends there or in bars. Meeting people in bars led to invitations for cook outs etc and eventually having my circle of friends. Does AAPR offer activities? I see television ads here in St. Louis. Hoping things work out and you find a good home here in MO
I could be wrong - the state itself is not smoke free. Some cities and counties ARE. St. Louis City. St. Louis County and Jackson County (KC) are. I thought Columbia OR Boone County was smoke free as well. I would have to confirm by checking online.
no, the state isn't smoke-free, but como is...and the county isn't. Hence Ashland being a smokers' paradise of sorts.
I unfortunately have had a bad experience with Columbia. To the tune of literally being snubbed.
Missouri is affordable to many of us that live in higher cost areas. Such as in my case retired, and needing cheaper and a less stressful environment than Florida.
So I chose Columbia since it would be a more liberal open minded region in the state. I was aware I needed that. I wasn't after the bigger Metros. I contacted 3 organizations. 1 a social group for the over 55 set. The other 2 were businesses involved with living there. I called, sent emails, texts left messages. No replies. I started wondering what is with these people, I finally got the social group to email me. Only because I text so often to force the reply. They said they had been incredibly rude for not answering all those requests. If I had further questions they were there to reply. I had questions about attending their social gatherings and heard nothing back. The businesses one being a realtor. Well they never contacted me not even once. I even sent them a registered letter. I got the return receipt but never contact with them. The other business or organization same exact behaviour. Absolutely nothing. Definitely not a welcoming experience.
So today I left them all a final message that read. I realize people are busy but there is no excuse for ignoring innocent people. People that are trying to establish themselves in the community. This has been going on for 6 weeks, I don't understand this type of behaviour and I would not live in such a place.
Perhaps they did me a favor. That to me is a pattern when 3 different outfits all act this way. Especially the realtor. I would think they would want the business. Its as if they have some way of picking and choosing their clientelle. I really did feel snubbed by this city, and im not even there. Is this type of snobbishness common there. I've never experienced this before from so many. You really can't blame someone for questioning is the entire region like what I described. Maybe its a place one really needs to be from there, to understand the people there. Cause I don't.
ummm...I wish I could say I was surprised by your experiences. I encountered a fair amount of the same thing when I first moved here, professionally and socially. In some cases, it still goes on, like in my neighborhood, which I love except for the attitudes of the people who "run" it. Very clique-y. There's two groups of people who run CoMo-- MU tenured faculty and high-up administrators, and people from the prominent families and entrenched businesses. At a deep level, these people prefer CoMo the way it was 15-40 years ago-- smaller, tighter, more (dare I say it) inbred.
20 years later, I have a pretty tight circle of about a dozen good friends. They tend to be outsiders by nature-- half are gay or lesbian, although my wife and I aren't. The others are just kinda weird, which I like. Basically, i feel like it's up to me to make a good life here, since I have roots and a spouse and grandchildren here. I've worked at establishing good relationships with neighbors (which didn't come naturally, me being a strong introvert), volunteer in the community, and strike up friendships out of those and other situations.
Sorry it left a bad taste in your mouth. I don't fault you for not choosing it as a place to move to. I'm far from being a booster for the town, but it has its good side.
ummm...I wish I could say I was surprised by your experiences. I encountered a fair amount of the same thing when I first moved here, professionally and socially. In some cases, it still goes on, like in my neighborhood, which I love except for the attitudes of the people who "run" it. Very clique-y. There's two groups of people who run CoMo-- MU tenured faculty and high-up administrators, and people from the prominent families and entrenched businesses. At a deep level, these people prefer CoMo the way it was 15-40 years ago-- smaller, tighter, more (dare I say it) inbred.
20 years later, I have a pretty tight circle of about a dozen good friends. They tend to be outsiders by nature-- half are gay or lesbian, although my wife and I aren't. The others are just kinda weird, which I like. Basically, i feel like it's up to me to make a good life here, since I have roots and a spouse and grandchildren here. I've worked at establishing good relationships with neighbors (which didn't come naturally, me being a strong introvert), volunteer in the community, and strike up friendships out of those and other situations.
Sorry it left a bad taste in your mouth. I don't fault you for not choosing it as a place to move to. I'm far from being a booster for the town, but it has its good side.
Sorry to hear of your experiences there. Sounds like you have made every attempt to be a part of those social groups. I realize St. Louis is a larger area, and when I moved here at 30, it is younger than your move to Columbia. I signed up to play sports, and met my friends there or in bars. Meeting people in bars led to invitations for cook outs etc and eventually having my circle of friends. Does AAPR offer activities? I see television ads here in St. Louis. Hoping things work out and you find a good home here in MO
I think I might have dealt with the wrong people. Well during my initial dealings with the area. I'm doing it from afar I'm not there. . I can't imagine everyone is like I described. Cyrano seems quite nice, and has friends. I think you hit on something Cyrano. People that seem like they live on the outside you connect with. Columbia most likely is made up of sub groups that seek each other out. I mean the entire area outside Columbia must be very conservative. I've decided to give it a chance and visit. I'm retired have the time. I can do whatever I want to do.
Columbia most likely is made up of sub groups that seek each other out. I mean the entire area outside Columbia must be very conservative. I've decided to give it a chance and visit. I'm retired have the time. I can do whatever I want to do.
We ended up retiring in Warsaw, MO after searching 5 years. It's the quiet end of the Lake between LOZ and Truman lake. One of the few places in the US where you can own lakefront property relatively cheap. Not a lot of amenities or health care but really quiet.
We ended up retiring in Warsaw, MO after searching 5 years. It's the quiet end of the Lake between LOZ and Truman lake. One of the few places in the US where you can own lakefront property relatively cheap. Not a lot of amenities or health care but really quiet.
It is reservoir front, and yes it is always lower priced than lakefront.
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