Rate these cities in missouri from MOST southern feeling to least southern feeling (Kansas City: shop, area)

[imbored198824]

Originally Posted by MOKAN

What was being discussed truly is an anomaly for Missouri.

For sure. The St. Louis accent is like nowhere else in Missouri. As soon as I hear someone from St Louis talk I can tell they are from St Louis or a suburb of Stl. They sound very different and have a northern sounding accent. Nowhere else in Missouri does anyone else talk like that. I have a keen ear for accents so not sure if everyone else can pick up on the Stl accent like I can. I actually helped a lady today at work who told me she lived in Branson but had just moved here from St. Louis. I said..."you don't have a St. Louis accent." She informed me she isn't actually from Stl. I can tell you at least to my ears the St Louis accent is quite significant and easy to hear!!! The accent is different than Kansas City or even areas north of St. Louis!!! I hear the accent just as much if not more in the younger people from there too. Of course they probably think I sound like a hillbilly!!!

[Rahlee boy]

Originally Posted by GunnerTHB

What is *both* midwest? Nobody here is saying that Missouri isn't midwestern, but if you think Sikeston is midwestern and not southern, then you really don't know what you are talking about.



I like MOKAN's posts because he is actually adding to the discussion and is interested in it, rather than pushing an agenda. I love this topic but I am also interested in others.



Good post. About the Indiana thing, I don't know how culturally southern they are, but I went to southeast Indiana a few months ago. Along I-65 near Louisville in Indiana, there were definitely some people that were talking like Kentuckians. It would be interesting to know if they were from Kentucky or Indiana. I wasn't there long enough to learn any more about the place. Southeast Indiana didn't have people talking like that, and it definitely wasn't culturally southern.

Yes, I do know what I am talking about. Missouri isn't southern, neither is the community of Sikestown.

[imbored198824]

Originally Posted by Rahlee boy

Yes, I do know what I am talking about. Missouri isn't southern, neither is the community of Sikestown.

Actually you have no idea what you're taking about of you don't think sikeston is a typical southern town. That's what it is. Sikeston is 100% southern. Have you ever been there?

[GunnerTHB]

Originally Posted by Rahlee boy

Yes, I do know what I am talking about. Missouri isn't southern, neither is the community of Sikestown.

You are right, Missouri isn't southern. Too bad for you that isn't what this thread is about, because it is about the cities listed in the first post of the thread. About Sikeston, you ain't got a clue and it's obvious since you can't even spell the name of the town correctly.

Please tell me how a non-suburban town of 16,000 that has a 25% black population surrounded by cotton and rice fields can be considered culturally part of the midwest. I won't hold my breath.

[imbored198824]

Originally Posted by GunnerTHB

You are right, Missouri isn't southern. Too bad for you that isn't what this thread is about, because it is about the cities listed in the first post of the thread. About Sikeston, you ain't got a clue and it's obvious since you can't even spell the name of the town correctly.

Please tell me how a non-suburban town of 16,000 that has a 25% black population surrounded by cotton and rice fields can be considered culturally part of the midwest. I won't hold my breath.

Throw in a huge majority of the population being baptist. Southern accents. Southern food...people generalize too much and forget state lines do NOT necessarily follow cultural lines.

[bigbluestl]

Originally Posted by GunnerTHB

You are right, Missouri isn't southern. Too bad for you that isn't what this thread is about, because it is about the cities listed in the first post of the thread. About Sikeston, you ain't got a clue and it's obvious since you can't even spell the name of the town correctly.

Please tell me how a non-suburban town of 16,000 that has a 25% black population surrounded by cotton and rice fields can be considered culturally part of the midwest. I won't hold my breath.

Then you have people on this forum who call the Bootheel the Boothill lol.

And you know the entire state isn't southern. About 25 percent is Southern, and the other 25 percent is a mix like southern IN and IL and other 50 is pure midwestern. We have been over this before.

[Ball freak]

Originally Posted by Rahlee boy

Yes, I do know what I am talking about. Missouri isn't southern, neither is the community of Sikestown.

Lol have you ever been there? Sikeston, not Sikestown, is very Southern in every single manner.

[bigbluestl]

Originally Posted by Ball freak

Lol have you ever been there? Sikeston, not Sikestown, is very Southern in every single manner.

True. The southern quarter of the state is southern, north of that is a transition zone like southern IN. Sikeston is well within that southern quarter.

[Ball freak]

Originally Posted by imbored198824

Throw in a huge majority of the population being baptist. Southern accents. Southern food...people generalize too much and forget state lines do NOT necessarily follow cultural lines.

Southern accents don't dominate the state. Southern food is really only popular in the Southern parts of the state. Southern Baptists are an anomaly but Missouri has a much larger Catholic population than all Southern states save Louisiana, which is Catholic for very unique reasons. Missouri also has Germans as the dominant ancestry in the majority of the state and the agriculture for the most part resembles the Midwest. Climatologically the state is split.

[bigbluestl]

Originally Posted by Ball freak

Southern accents don't dominate the state. Southern food is really only popular in the Southern parts of the state. Southern Baptists are an anomaly but Missouri has a much larger Catholic population than all Southern states save Louisiana, which is Catholic for very unique reasons. Missouri also has Germans as the dominant ancestry in the majority of the state and the agriculture for the most part resembles the Midwest. Climatologically the state is split.

One other thing though is politics at the state level resembles some of the southern states when compared to WI, IA, MN, IL, OH, NE and such, MO seems to be more right wing while the other midwest states seem to be more moderate Republicans. Missouri Republicans are pretty far to the right when compared to OH for example. Even IN Republicans seem to not be as far right on some issues. When it comes to firearms laws, abortion and such MO is really going to the right lately.

Even at the state level the Democrats in MO are not as liberal like Chris Koster and Jay Nixon for example are more conservative than other states Democrats to the north

While MO is considered in the midwest by most today the religion aspect, and political one certainly has some southern components to it still left over from the past that sets it apart from other midwest states. While the southern accents, food might not be there as much some of the influence still remains in other places.


It will be interesting this upcoming leg session in Jefferson City how much more right it goes. The Democrats took a slaughtering last election. Jefferson County to my south that usually leans democrat, or is swing area went heavily Republican with the shocker being Roorda losing the senate. Roorda is a conservative Democrat so I figured he was going to win still.

I hope more stuff gets done. We need no permit concealed carry. I'd like to see that the next step to ram it on through with the super majorities as a priority.

now the southern, and non southern a good debate would be Florida. How would one classify that? I lived in SWFL for 11 years and returned this year for a bit and FL has really changed. North of Orlando there is a lot of southern places especially in rural areas, south of Orlando very little southern culture except for some small patches. I rarely ever heard a southern accent in Southwest FL when I lived there. One of the few times is when I had a teacher in Middle School from KY who had a thick hickish accent and everyone thought it was funny. Heck many parts of Florida I feel like I'm not even in the United States but in Mexico or Cuba. That would be a state to debate about.