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Old 01-11-2018, 07:35 PM
 
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The unaffordability and traffic is caused by too many people, because again, that’s where people want to live. The St. Louis metro has been stagnant for many years. So people put up with all the negative things about the Bay Area. It has better weather, restaurants, more amenities, crime is lower, the population is more educated. I’ve been to the Bay Area several times (I fly into San Fran yearly on my trip to Lake Tahoe and Yosemite). I’ve never lived there, though. I know the homeless population is high, but look at crime in St. Louis. Crime is way worse in most Rust Belt cities. San Fran is relatively safe. To each their own, though. There are nice places to live in the Midwest. The Twin Cities are great. Madison and Grand Rapids are terrific little towns. Unfortunately, St. Louis is trash.
That is true crime is bad in places such as St. Louis, New Orleans, and Memphis for example. I hear Memphis very bad and very similar to stl.

However, in Missouri unlike in California 18 year olds can legally carry a firearm concealed and you don't need a permit to carry concealed in MO so more people are able to defend themselves and others in Missouri and use some stand your ground.

The lawmakers of MO have provided Missourian's with the tools they need to protect themselves. California doesn't.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:45 PM
 
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Ok I personally know Eric Greiten's and only thing I have talked with him about that I didn't like was Right to Work but I'm retired Union worker.


Like a woman said awhile ago to me it takes two to play.


brushrunner
Do you think Mike Parson is going to be the governor of Missouri soon? I'm sure there are a lot of republicans in the house and senate who would love to see him governor. He's a lot more to the right than Greitens and would go along with the Republican policies such as harder line on abortion and would also be more pro gun.

I can see them even trying to impeach him since a number of republicans dislike him and get their man in there.

Similar to how with Trump many in the establishment want to get Mike Pence in the White House.

I have to read the MO constitution again, but does Todd Richardson then become Lt. Governor or does the house and senate vote on a Lt. governor to nominate?

What do you think of Greitens? Do you know him from his time running for office or do you know him as a personal friend for years?

How could he cheat on someone like Sheena, a very attractive young lady, and smart too over some bimbo hair dresser? Most men don't have wives who look like her.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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The unaffordability and traffic is caused by too many people, because again, that’s where people want to live. The St. Louis metro has been stagnant for many years. So people put up with all the negative things about the Bay Area. It has better weather, restaurants, more amenities, crime is lower, the population is more educated. I’ve been to the Bay Area several times (I fly into San Fran yearly on my trip to Lake Tahoe and Yosemite). I’ve never lived there, though. I know the homeless population is high, but look at crime in St. Louis. Crime is way worse in most Rust Belt cities. San Fran is relatively safe. To each their own, though. There are nice places to live in the Midwest. The Twin Cities are great. Madison and Grand Rapids are terrific little towns. Unfortunately, St. Louis is trash.
The crime in the Bay Area is deceiving. The crime in SF is relatively decent, except for a stupid amount of property crime. However, with all the towns so close together, there is far more to worry about as a whole.

Oakland
Richmond
Vallejo
Antioch
Pittsburg
Emeryville

These areas are all very unsafe, in all ways. That’s not including the “bad” areas of the many other towns around the area. Another downfall, no chance of protecting yourself due to the crazy strict gun & knife laws. A thug comes to you with threats, you’re screwed.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:19 PM
 
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Do you think Mike Parson is going to be the governor of Missouri soon? I'm sure there are a lot of republicans in the house and senate who would love to see him governor. He's a lot more to the right than Greitens and would go along with the Republican policies such as harder line on abortion and would also be more pro gun.
You mean Greitens somehow isn’t pro gun enough for Parson?
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:41 PM
 
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You mean Greitens somehow isn’t pro gun enough for Parson?
Not on the level of a rural MO republican. Last year he didn't make any comments about the gun free zone bill being pushed and generally avoids the topic.

I could see him vetoing that bill.

Someone like a Matt Blunt, Peter Kinder, Mike Parson would never veto a gun bill. Peter Kinder is about as pro gun as you can find.

Like I said, my suspicion about Greitens along with many others is that democrats voted in the primary with a republican ballot in order to get the weaker candidate.

Remember the same thing happened with Todd Akin in 2012. Claire McCaskill even said it herself helped Todd win the primary knowing she could beat him. Because he's way out there like Roy Moore which in a lot of ways both are very similar being too over the top bible thumpers for even Alabama and Missouri. Moore's popularity as judge was slowly waning with the voters as he was becoming over the top then being removed from the bench. What I mean Roy Moore and Todd Akin are similar and that they're clumsy and not the brightest.

I think that is why Greitens won the primary. He was the usual joker candidate in the primaries. Then you also have the ads of shooting an AR and machine gun which gets the pro gunners fired up.

Peter Kinder would have made an excellent governor. He's level headed, makes sound decisions and is as pro gun as you can find. He was a big help in ccw passing in Missouri and overriding the veto in 2003.

Another example is some suggested he work for Trump in DC. Kinder said he didn't consider it because he looked at how much it cost to live in Virginia and DC area and didn't think it was good financially compared to Missouri which is far cheaper and a lot less congested. He uses common sense judgement.

They need to change the way the primaries work though to not allow one party to jump to the other and cause problems like this like it is in other states. If this didn't happen, I think Kinder would have got the nomination and he too would have beat Chris Koster. Other than that BS about the hotel room thing you will not find any major dirt on Peter Kinder.

Republicans in MO really blew it there by not backing Kinder in the 2016 governors race and instead pimped Hanaway and Brunner.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:50 PM
 
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Actually, if Tom Schweich didn't kill himself, he would be the governor of Missouri right now. He was very well liked by many democrats as well and pretty much everyone predicted he would easily sail to victory as the next governor since Nixon was term limited. We wouldn't even be hearing about Greitens right now.

Ironic, he'd also be the first Jewish governor of Missouri. Even though he was Christian, by blood he would been since his grandfather was Jewish. He thought some Republicans were trying to undermine him because of the Jewish ancestry in him which led to him killing himself.
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:22 PM
 
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This is just the tip of the toxic GOP iceberg in Missouri. The party has no moral compass and appeals to people of the same affliction. The state is in a dark hole and the GOP is handing out shovels to keep digging. This comes just a couple years after the two suicides.

Greitens is wounded and I’m sure sharks are closing in.

As far as Schweich’s Jewishness is concerned, it is matrilineal by traditional Jewish law — passed down by the mother and not through a grandfather. The fact that this was even a potential issue in an election is an indication of how sick politics has become in Missouri.
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:45 PM
 
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This is just the tip of the toxic GOP iceberg in Missouri. The party has no moral compass and appeals to people of the same affliction. The state is in a dark hole and the GOP is handing out shovels to keep digging. This comes just a couple years after the two suicides.

Greitens is wounded and I’m sure sharks are closing in.

As far as Schweich’s Jewishness is concerned, it is matrilineal by traditional Jewish law — passed down by the mother and not through a grandfather. The fact that this was even a potential issue in an election is an indication of how sick politics has become in Missouri.
In most of the south though (MO basically is upper south still) people are not big on Jews. I mean they don't HATE them, they just dislike them but at the same time support Israel and will defend Jews against harm. I don't know how to explain it as it would take me a long time to go in-depth about it.

If this were Arkansas or Mississippi the same crap would have gone on behind the scenes.

FL in the 1940s we had a Jewish governor from New York lol, but even then FL wasn't a traditional southern state. Can you imagine MS or AL having a carpet bagger from NY as a governor?

I will say here in Florida people are much more tolerant towards other races and Jews. Jews hold a lot of sway in FL and our governor is always catering to them. Overall much more tolerant towards them that what you see in Missouri.

The Republicans really had no choice once Greitens got the nomination to back him.

It wouldn't shock me if Republicans behind the scenes pushed for this story to get out in order to get Parson installed as governor.

I don't like Greitens much because he's someone phony and in a way is a republican version of Obama. Quickly seeking higher office and seeks attention but it would be sad to see him impeached over an affair before office.

Thinking about it, unless more major stuff comes out, I don't think Greitens will be impeached or leave office. I think in 6 months this will all blow over. There is hardly any evidence to support anything else other than a brief affair unlike with harassment like Al Franken did to a number of people or Roy Moore with multiple people. Even though Moore some of the accusers are turning out to be phony now and paid off. Even if that were true about hitting on young girl at the mall, it isn't against the law. Being creepy, yes indeed.

When Matt Blunt was governor people were saying how corrupt the Republican party was in Missouri yet each election they kept gaining more and more seats in the house and senate. Now they got 25 senate seats and 117 in the house, actually a bit less now because of a few vacant seats but the vacancies are in Republican safe districts.

If the democrats are to gain seats it would be mostly in the St. Louis area, mainly in Jefferson and Ste. Gen County, St. Francois County where over the last few years 5 of those house seats flipped Republican. Before those seats were held by conservative democrats who almost always sided with Republicans on nearly every issue except labor and would vote pro gun and anti abortion. Now they have been replaced with Republicans and vote the same way, but side with democrats on labor issues and their seats are pretty safe now too since they side with the unions. Last election most of those seats the democrats didn't even run an opponent for the senate and house seats down there.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:44 PM
 
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Well for once in over 40 years I got very involved in politics because I didn't like what was being done in this country. I very much supported President Trump and Governor Greitens.


It is very obvious Democrats are pulling out all stops to turn things around to their Socialist way of thinking.


Had a woman today telling me how happy she was to see this on Governor Greitens. I told her it takes two to play. She started preaching the Bible to me about Adultery. I asked her about Judging? Well he is in the Public Eye, so you are to Judge. I say well he has a past, do you have a past? Yes but it is private. Oh! But he is in the Public Eye.


There is no arguing with Liberal Democrats.


Seems to me the Major Cities that are having trouble are in Democrat control and this country was turning in the same direction and I'm so Happy we have leaders determined to turn it back around.


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Old 01-12-2018, 12:51 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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And people wonder why conservatives are looked down on by democrats. Not to mention our president who is constantly name calling like he's 12 years old. Grow up and stop using terms like democraps.

I don't know much about this, but who cares about people's personal lives. Care about what he will do to fix the roads in Missouri, fund education, make the state more economically competitive, reduce crime and blight etc, not what they do with their private sex lives.

For the record, I think he should resign. But Missouri blindly voted for him, just like Kansas voted for Brownback and you both voted for Trump. You get what you deserve.
What a stupid post.

First of all, we are talking about someone who has been accused, not convicted. Secondly, if he committed the acts he is accused of he has committed a crime, not "had a private sex life".

So that put the whole "you got what you deserve" meme right out the door, doesn't it? We Republicans wanted Trump and we are satisfied with what we got. You will notice that Trump voters are not abandoning ship.
Democrats look down on conservatives because Democrats look down on everyone who doesn't agree with them. In that vein, Democrats are not much different from radical Muslims.
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