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This is BS, what do you mean it doesn't have anything to do with the popularity of the sport. It has everything to do with the popularity. It's a market driven system. WTF?
So to you, hockey is MMA and the NFL is boxing right? Thanks buddy.
So you're saying that who people are willing to pay to watch fight is corruption?
see where you are wrong, boxing USED to be really popular, but the popularity has been and is falling off significantly. ONCE AGAIN boxing has MAYBE 2-3 names who can draw ppv buys. the amount of money the fighters make has very little to do with the popularity of the sport and more so to do with how their agents have been able to negotiate over the last 50 years. now dont get me wrong, boxing is still watched by a lot of people, but the idea that it is more popular then mma is crazy. just look at the PPV buys, with the exception of 2 guys no boxing match is even remotely close to what ppv does. hopkins-jones jr did about 150k buys. i cant even find a ufc in the last 5 years with less. in 2010 the ufc did about 9.1m buys, while boxing did (best i can find) about 5m buys.
in 2009 the boxing had 3 of the top 10 ppv buys, WWE had 1 and the ufc had the other 6. of those 3 boxing ppv buys which ones DIDNT have manny or floyd in them? oh thats right NONE.
so in closing i will reiterate boxing has 2-4 popular fighters, as a sport it is in no way competition for popularity with MMA.
here is an interesting bit of info on boxings popularity and the hopkins/jones jr fight
The Boxing Truth - Live Gate Revenue For Hopkins-Jones II... The Number Is In (http://theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1736 - broken link)
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Apr 14, 2010 - The official figure has been provided by Keith Kizer of the Nevada State Athletic Commission.
$1,198,200 is the "official" live gate sales reported for the misery that was Bernard Hopkins vs. Roy Jones Jr.
While these are the figures provided as total receipt of sales, it also signifies that roughly six thousand $200 dollar tickets were sold for the bout.
While there were indeed a little more than 6,000 attendees counted for the live event, it makes you scratch your head as to the validity of how this total live gate figure is calculated as it's been well documented that many of those tickets were given away to patrons staying at the Mandalay Bay for that weekend as well as being sold for merely the sales tax figure for each ticket to casino workers.
So yes... based on a technicality of how these receipts are tallied, $1,198,200 is the official figure.
However, I think we can all pretty much agree that the boxing public didn't shell out over one million dollars to witness misery at it's finest.
so what they are saying is that they couldnt get enough people interested in seeing the fight that they gave a large amount of the tickets to hotel guests, and sold a bunch to employees for the cost of the TAXES on it, less then 10% or roughly $20 would be the value of the tax. well hell yeah i want to go see 2 legends of boxing battle it out for $20.
ok so let me see this list does not include one ufc off the top of my head, ufc 100 which did about 1.6+m buys (some sources have it at 1.7m) which would put it at #4 on this list. then there is the question of out of those 10 to buys OF ALL TIME in boxing, how many where in the last 10 years? and then the question, of those 4 ppvs, how many did not have floyd or manny? ONE and it had mike tyson dreaming of a comeback in 2002. ufc 116 is estimated between 1.25 and 1.3m buys thus putting it either taking over 9th or tying 9/10th on this list. mike tyson and oscar de la hoya are the undisputed kings of ppv buys from the 1990's no doubt and given some time they will be taken off the list by the ufc/mma.
see it doesnt mater how you slice it, the ufc and mma in general is much more popular, but hey boxing still has manny and floyd FOR NOW! how much longer will they be around? who is their replacement? who is going to carry the torch for boxing? see boxing doesnt have the young guns like it used to. MMA is more readily available, and the GOOD boxing trainers are already starting to work in with the mma guys. hell floyd sr worked for 2-3 weeks with bj penn before his fitch fight, and floyd sr was (per his own words) extremely impressed with what bj could already do and how good his hands already where. he also said he looked forward to working with more mma guys.
you see this just helps to reiterate my point, boxing WAS king, but over the last 5-10 years (since dana took over the ufc and started really marketing it) the ufc/mma has blown past boxing for popularity.
lol look at the list again! ufc 100 is there and in the last 10 years, u guessed it 1 ufc and 3 boxing! so how have i reiterated your point?!
look i watch ufc more than boxing, and love it, but to say the ufc is more popular than the very best boxing fights is ridiculous, it's going in the right direction and no doubt in 5-10 years it more than likely will be, but not yet
You forgot to add 116 in there which would take the 10 spot making it 2-2 in the last 10 yrs. And for the final time, boxing has 2 names, mma has 10 times that. As a whole boxings 2 names do not equal the popularity of mma as a whole.
Again look at 2010, the ufc did over 9m ppv buys, boxing has never done more then about 7-7.5m buys.
just answer me this question, if floyd mayweather and manny pacquiao fight, it will take ufc another 10 years at least to get that amount of PPV's would it not? so, there is more demand for the BEST fight in boxing, which obviously is part of a wider sport, but people want to see the best in the sport, therefore boxing still is more popular, end of!
I don't agree, IF those 2 guys fight, it could conceivably bring in 2-3-4m buys. It's not bringing in more then 4, no way, no how. The ufc can make that up in 5 shows, but boxing will never have another fight like that. This shows the popularity of those 2 fighters, but not the sport itself.
lol you are deluded if you think that, that fight, the most hyped fight in history, could bring in more than 4 million easy, without a doubt. people who have never even seen boxing would watch that fight
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