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Old 07-21-2021, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Mobile, AL
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That probably was the case then but he is not against annexations now. Fred and Karlos are two different people hands down.
Really, because Karlos is pretty clear about being against annexation on his website, Facebook, and speaking engagements. I honestly think that Karlos knows that annexation is best for the city; however, he feels for some reason he has to do what the Mobile Democratic Executive Committee says. They are the ones that put up the opposition as it was a goal of theirs to try to get rid of Sandy. They were pretty open about it in 2019. They were worried that West Mobile was too republican and make it difficult to get a democratic mayor. They put a TON of pressure on Manzie. What bothers me the most is that Karlos, Fred, and the others would put their political careers above the city. Shameful. Manzie is having trouble and a lot of it stems from his opposition to the annexation vote. If he truly is for annexation, why can't he say that he would push for a vote after taking office? After all, the city will need a lot more revenue for all of his proposed programs.
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Old 07-22-2021, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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Really, because Karlos is pretty clear about being against annexation on his website, Facebook, and speaking engagements. I honestly think that Karlos knows that annexation is best for the city; however, he feels for some reason he has to do what the Mobile Democratic Executive Committee says. They are the ones that put up the opposition as it was a goal of theirs to try to get rid of Sandy. They were pretty open about it in 2019. They were worried that West Mobile was too republican and make it difficult to get a democratic mayor. They put a TON of pressure on Manzie. What bothers me the most is that Karlos, Fred, and the others would put their political careers above the city. Shameful. Manzie is having trouble and a lot of it stems from his opposition to the annexation vote. If he truly is for annexation, why can't he say that he would push for a vote after taking office? After all, the city will need a lot more revenue for all of his proposed programs.
Why would manzie be against annexation? His district is in the heart of the city. Annexation wouldn't effect him I assume.
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Old 07-22-2021, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Mobile, AL
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Why would manzie be against annexation? His district is in the heart of the city. Annexation wouldn't effect him I assume.
Exactly. He was going to be yes vote and that is one of the reasons the initiative was added to the agenda. The administration thought they had the votes after months of negotiations. The MCEC and the Alabama Democratic party put a high priority on Mobile's non-partisan mayoral election. They want to unseat Sandy who is a republican. They put pressure on Manzie to change his vote. If anything, it would have helped his district by increasing revenues in the city, which can improve the entire community.

When Vivian Figures, Sam Jones, Napoleon Bracy, Adaline Clarke and others showed up at the council meeting.... We all knew Manzie was going to cave. Those democratic politicians have a lot of power in the community. Mobile politics can be dirty, but putting your political party or ambitions above the welfare of your city is horrible.
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Old 07-22-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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It's too bad the racial component even got entered into the conversation about allowing people to vote to annex in the first place... absolutely a shameful moment for Fred Richardson and whomever is pushing that behind the scenes. Truly disgraceful

I know I personally lost a lot of respect for Manzie for falling to that pressure
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Old 07-22-2021, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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Exactly. He was going to be yes vote and that is one of the reasons the initiative was added to the agenda. The administration thought they had the votes after months of negotiations. The MCEC and the Alabama Democratic party put a high priority on Mobile's non-partisan mayoral election. They want to unseat Sandy who is a republican. They put pressure on Manzie to change his vote. If anything, it would have helped his district by increasing revenues in the city, which can improve the entire community.

When Vivian Figures, Sam Jones, Napoleon Bracy, Adaline Clarke and others showed up at the council meeting.... We all knew Manzie was going to cave. Those democratic politicians have a lot of power in the community. Mobile politics can be dirty, but putting your political party or ambitions above the welfare of your city is horrible.
Wow smh.
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Old 07-22-2021, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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It's too bad the racial component even got entered into the conversation about allowing people to vote to annex in the first place... absolutely a shameful moment for Fred Richardson and whomever is pushing that behind the scenes. Truly disgraceful

I know I personally lost a lot of respect for Manzie for falling to that pressure
Unfortunately, it's that way nationwide nowadays. And perhaps even worse, it's widely accepted as fair.
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