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Old 03-16-2011, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Montana
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26 warrants issued in Monday pot raids, remaining businesses vow resilience - The Bozeman Daily Chronicle: News

What are everyone's thoughts on this? Seems to be a hot topic around here these days.
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Old 03-16-2011, 07:24 PM
 
Location: NW Montana
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This is why you need a real good Sheriff elected in each County - one who doesn't take orders from the Feds - knows he serves the people.

If there are good reasons to seek arrest and prosecution, fine. The Sheriff should be able to know that because he knows his county, his peeps.

But 'guns drawn' for growing marijuana in a licensed facility? These guys are off track.
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Old 03-16-2011, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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According to what I am seeing in the reports, Local Law Enforcement was there to monitor the raids.

Per this article, the affected shops were not following the "law" in Montana either and these busts were for basically dealing dope in the usual manner.

The investigation took place over 18 months.

Marijuana raids built on years of investigation, yield millions in cash

It would appear from this story at least, the busts didn't even touch folks with the issued cards, just the ones abusing the system.
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Montana
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It seems to me, that the medicinal marijuana situation in Montana has opened the doors to organizations that grow here and sell in other places underground, with a perfect cover business... They can have pot on site without fear of someone seeing it. It's brought gangs, criminal enterprises etc... to main street Montana. They didn't bust dispensaries that were following state law, just those that were caught buying from illegal sources to re-sell, and selling to people without cards. Did they not think that the Feds would be watching?

The operations that were found to be conducting business on the up and up were NOT raided. Just the ones suspected of interstate commerce of an illegal substance, tax evasion etc...

It's such an emotional issue to some people that they respond without looking at the facts first... It's like the want to believe the government wants to destroy all those that have partaken of a little mj..

This isn't about cancer patients that can still get it if they need it, it's not about people with MS, it's not even about hippies sitting around in drum circles..

It's about peoples ability to follow even the vaguest of laws, and the temptation of easy money under the table that caught up with some. If we have to pay our taxes whether by our payroll deductions or on our small businesses, shouldn't these people?
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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Screw the feds.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Moscow
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Screw the feds.
Thank you for your insightful and thought provoking comments, NYMTman.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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Thank you for your insightful and thought provoking comments, NYMTman.
You're welcome.

First they take our pot, then they take our guns. Then they'll come after you and me.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:20 PM
 
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Are you serious? First our pot? The whole "medical marijawana" episode has gotten way out of hand. I could go to a participating doctor with a cold and get a green card. The pot shops are in cahoots with those doctors so therefore, so illegal activity is at hand. I for one have witnessed a man in our town not even a block from our school, growing the pot OUTSIDE, IN PLAIN SIGHT next to his house. Sure he had his "legal" number of plants but for crying out loud, kid's walk by his house to go home from school. Who's keeping an eye on the pot to ensure high schoolers don't sneak some of his pot? If you say it's the parents responsibility, you are dead wrong. The pot was on private property and therefore, the pot owners responsibility. It was gone in week thanks to local law enforcement. This guy claims bad back yet rides snowmobiles, 4-wheelers and hunts very intensely. I know he for one can take his green card and shove it.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Honestly this state has a WORSE issue with alcohol than where I came from (West Virginia).. Pot is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more tame than Oxycodone issues in Appalachia.

As far as I'm concerned pot is about 10 steps below the rampant DUI issues in MT, and certainly less of an issue than Meth or Oxy.

BUT- if the shops raided were in direct violation of interstate commerce rules and their activities smack against a states legal right to ban such substances- well they had it coming. No one is above the law. No one.
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Old 03-18-2011, 05:56 AM
 
Location: C-U metro
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It seems to me, that the medicinal marijuana situation in Montana has opened the doors to organizations that grow here and sell in other places underground, with a perfect cover business... They can have pot on site without fear of someone seeing it. It's brought gangs, criminal enterprises etc... to main street Montana. They didn't bust dispensaries that were following state law, just those that were caught buying from illegal sources to re-sell, and selling to people without cards. Did they not think that the Feds would be watching?

The operations that were found to be conducting business on the up and up were NOT raided. Just the ones suspected of interstate commerce of an illegal substance, tax evasion etc...
Yes, they thought the Feds weren't going to be watching.

I'm hoping that there are a lot of RICO charges on this. That way, just about everything these people own will come up for auction in 3 years (it takes that long between the trials and the fed's setting the auction up). I wonder how many homes in Bozeman and Western Montana will be up for sale due to these shysters.

A prime example of why MM should be fine but it can't be because of DB's like this, it can't be accomplished.

@magoomafoo: Is the pot plant within 1000 feet of a school? That could be a Federal charge that the Obama administration will still enforce. See if the neighbor could get a noxious weed charge from the county too.
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