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It would not be my choice of career for any daughter of mine but it is perfectly legal and if people do it of their own free will...
There are plenty of demeaning, gross and degrading jobs out there.
People focus on this one out of a need to moralize.
Exactly.
The people doing it certainly don't think it's demeaning -- a lot of them take pride in what they do, and many of them even take classes to hone their skills (pole dancing is not an easy task.)
Europe, I was just looking at flights to Toronto when the whole virus situation started. I thought let’s wait a bit to see how this develops. We all know how that turned out...
Europe, I was just looking at flights to Toronto when the whole virus situation started. I thought let’s wait a bit to see how this develops. We all know how that turned out...
Yeah it sucks. i also had to cancel all my travel plans. I feel real bad for the dancers and all the people that work at clubs.
Coming from Europe I am not sure if you would be impressed with the strip clubs over here. Seems like you guys have better entertainment.
Why? I'd have thought it would be obvious to anyone who does their thinking with the head that sits on top of the shoulders.
Because it's demeaning, stigmatizing, dehumanizing, exploitive, sexual objectification, that's why. There are other non-demeaning, non-objectifying ways for people to make a better, healthier, safer, less exhausting, more qualifying and more productive living with the added bonus of having a longer life expectancy than what strippers have. I have encountered too many women (and men) who were in the business and died far too early because of it.
Do you believe all those people who make their living that way actually WANT to make a living that way? Do you think that there are youngsters who say "when I grow up I want to be a stripper and be dehumanized and stigmatized while I get naked in public for a bunch of drunk, slavering slobs who are raping me in their minds." ???
You think it's terrible that I say I hope strip clubs go out of business. I think it's terrible that there are dehumanizing people who want objects of their lust to expose naked bodies to them to satisfy the porn that's going on inside their heads.
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Does canada produce sanctimonious, moralizing shrews in some factory out by Sioux Lookout or something ?? The fact remains that these places, which I am not in the least bit embarrassed to admit I patronized in my 20s, are a place where adults come together to exchange services for money in a mutually agreeable manner. And yes, many girls DID want to make money that way. They preferred over the jobs they previously held. Many told me so in the course of our sometimes rather involved conversations that would lead up to the dance.
All they ever did is have convos with the guests then proceed to perform a strip tease in which they were the (intense) focus of attention during the elaborate fantasy the girls would try to conjure with their dance routines. Some girls were so good that it looked like a genuine seduction. Who doesn't like to be seduced ? A harmless diversion to take one's mind off the concerns of the day, that's all. Men are transfixed by female beauty and feminine energy generally, especially in our youth. Attention from females acts like a balm for the soul even when faked. It was just a pleasant and relaxing interlude made real by the fact that real, live human being was making you the focus of their attention.
People crave the human touch; we could stand to have a little bit more of that in CorporateWorld a.k.a Canada.
I don't know, kiddo, I'm sorry but that story all sounds really pathetic to me. You have my sympathy when I read your account of being so lonely and deprived that paying strangers in a strip club was what you had to do to get some conversation, attention and sexual affection but it still doesn't justify other people having to debase themselves that way to make a living. Your story says more about your own social inadequacies than it says about the sanctimonious shrews you imagine being manufactured in some factory out by Sioux Lookout, whatever that is.
I don't know, kiddo, I'm sorry but that story all sounds really pathetic to me. You have my sympathy when I read your account of being so lonely and deprived that paying strangers in a strip club was what you had to do to get some conversation, attention and sexual affection but it still doesn't justify other people having to debase themselves that way to make a living. Your story says more about your own social inadequacies than it says about the sanctimonious shrews you imagine being manufactured in some factory out by Sioux Lookout, whatever that is.
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A little judgmental, are you not? Your entire post stinks.
Speaking of Montreal strip clubs and drug distribution, how IS the Montreal Mafia and the biker gangs doing during these times???? (believe me, this is sticking to this thread)!!
The people doing it certainly don't think it's demeaning -- a lot of them take pride in what they do, and many of them even take classes to hone their skills (pole dancing is not an easy task.)
What world do you live in? Have'nt you ever watched any videos of women who are forced into this because they have to make money to feed their family? I very very much doubt any woman dreamt of this as what they wanted to be when they grew up. It's debauchery at it's worse.
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