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Old 01-23-2008, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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How can the lender change the rate once its locked ( not float down).My lender did not agree for that and agent also told nobody does that.
If rate can be changed even after lockin then what is the point of locking in
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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5.375% this morning should've came with no origination fee.

Now it's 5.25-5.375 with 1% origination fee

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Machinist what was your orgination fee? i was quoted the same rate w/a 1% origination fee. thanks
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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As i told treasury yield is up . Rt now its 3.65%. People missed the bus who did not lock ydy.
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Old 01-24-2008, 02:17 PM
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How can the lender change the rate once its locked ( not float down).My lender did not agree for that and agent also told nobody does that.
If rate can be changed even after lockin then what is the point of locking in
The "lock-in" option was created during the boom, inflationary period when people needed some guarantee of rate out of fear that a higher rate might jeopardize their ability to make the mortgage payment. However, along with this "guarantee" came a fee, usually about $250 or 1/4 point paid by the borrower. This represented more profit for the lender and the buyer was willing to pay a small fee for peace of mind.

In the current environment of a Fed trend to lower rates, any lender who is pushing a lock-in clause is abusing the buyer. They know better. In fact this 3/4 point inter-meeting cut will probably be followed by another 1/4 to 1/2 point cut at the next Fed meeting. Lenders know that anyone they can get to close on a rate now will represent more profit for them in a few weeks. As always the only solution is market competition. Unless you are very close to closing they need to know you will walk to another lender.
If they are unwilling to negotiate with you, I wouldn't do business with them in the first place.

As with all successful business transactions, the "lock-in" should be mutually beneficial to both parties. If the lender is trying to use it as a weapon to unfairly leverage the buyer, it is up to the buyer to assertively advocate for himself.
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Old 01-24-2008, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Northwest CT
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kind of mad...locked my rate last week at 5.5%
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Old 01-24-2008, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Now the 10 yr treasury yield is 3.71% . What a big jump in 2 days.
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Hillsborough, NJ
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Machinist what was your orgination fee? i was quoted the same rate w/a 1% origination fee. thanks
Friars,ours has no origination fee and 0 points.
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:43 PM
 
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Now the 10 yr treasury yield is 3.71% . What a big jump in 2 days.
Not much has changed in the sub prime or general economy issues. Can anyone explain why the ten year went from 3.31 to 3.71 in two days???
Doesn't make sense.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Not much has changed in the sub prime or general economy issues. Can anyone explain why the ten year went from 3.31 to 3.71 in two days???
Doesn't make sense.
because of two things

federal interest rate cut and
stock market jump
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:27 AM
 
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because of two things

federal interest rate cut and
stock market jump
doesn't the fed rate cut usually spur bonds to follow down in rate and up in price??
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