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Old 03-16-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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Yeah I heard 50K was the lowest. So maybe get a place for 70K and put 20k down would be smarter? I want her payments to be $300 MAX, am assuming that puts her in the 50-60K mortgage range.

Hoping some mortgage folks chime in here. Have a call in to a realtor I adore, bought my condo from him (he was listing agent), to ask these qs too.
$300 sounds low unless property taxes and insurance are really cheap where you are. The mortgage alone minus insurance and taxes will be around $240 on a $50K loan.

But if it's less than rent she should do it, in fact she can get a roommate to pay $400 a month for the spare bedroom and her home will pay for itself.
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:27 PM
 
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Ack. What I thought. Expound, would you?

I don't want to tie up 50K, is why. I don't mind giving up to 20k (would be a gift, not a loan).
Well, the best way to look at the additional $50K is an investment that would return 4-5%, assuming you charged her a market interest rate - it would also be asset-backed.

The other way would be to just do a home equity loan based on your own property, cosign for her and have her pay the equity note.
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:29 PM
 
Location: NY>FL>VA>NC>IN
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$300 sounds low unless property taxes and insurance are really cheap where you are. The mortgage alone minus insurance and taxes will be around $240 on a $50K loan.
They are indeed cheap here. Her BF (aged 21, no family help, so proud of him) just bought his first house, 115K. Taxes per annum, $588. My condo I sold last June, $178.
#shoutout2IND
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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Well, the best way to look at the additional $50K is an investment that would return 4-5%, assuming you charged her a market interest rate - it would also be asset-backed.

The other way would be to just do a home equity loan based on your own property, cosign for her and have her pay the equity note.
I get what you're saying but nah. I want this as uncomplicated as possible. I'm happy to give her (max) 20K towards it outright but beyond that, nope.
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Old 03-16-2019, 02:25 PM
 
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I get what you're saying but nah. I want this as uncomplicated as possible. I'm happy to give her (max) 20K towards it outright but beyond that, nope.
Totally understandable - she might end up paying an extra half point or so, but that’s not a huge thing on a small loan.

My only other thought would be that buying a house at this stage in her life is just going to limit future job opportunities - while IN is indeed low tax, it also has a shaky (at best) job market. When she does graduate, it may entail moving to find her ideal job. Being tied to a house will limit those options.
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Old 03-16-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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Totally understandable - she might end up paying an extra half point or so, but that’s not a huge thing on a small loan.

My only other thought would be that buying a house at this stage in her life is just going to limit future job opportunities - while IN is indeed low tax, it also has a shaky (at best) job market. When she does graduate, it may entail moving to find her ideal job. Being tied to a house will limit those options.
Thought of that; she'll rent it out if that happens. I'll be here to manage it. These wee houses rent for around $600 here so that'll be a nice ROI for her. Or just sell it at that point.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:56 AM
 
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The situation:

my daughter aged 19.5 yr, full time student at Purdue, woks part time (same job since Nov 2017 That's not two years - you may have trouble using her income at all as part-time jobs require a 2 year history. However, her age may come into play and an Underwriter could simply average her monthly income since she started working. If she worked P/T prior to the existing job, that could help.) income around 20k/yr, around 10K in her bank account, perfect banking history X3yr w/same bank (no overdrafts), has own (not secured, regular) credit card since age 18, credit score 750-ish, no debt (I gave her a car, it is paid for). Lives in own apt (no roommates, no lease) since May 2018, rent $429./mo.

I would like to help her buy a small house, with a mortgage payment not to exceed $300/mo. Can't be done.
I can provide her 20% down.
I can co sign mortgage, my credit score stays between 800-850 but I am retired, and have no income (will start to collect SS in 4 years) but significant liquid assets. You could use your Assets, without spending them. It's called Declining Assets income, wherein your liquid assets are calculated as a function of income. There's a spreadsheet and everything.

Would we be able to get her a mortgage on a house around 65-75k? Base payment before adding taxes and insurance is about $400.

I haven't had a mortgage in years, bought my last places with cash, and am unfamiliar with obtaining financing for such a low income/low amount situation.

Thanks in advance
Extrapolating: a $75k mortgage is about a $100k property. You will need to at least factor in property taxes and homeowners insurance. Your monthly payment goal of $300 cannot be met. In fact the monthly payment would be closer to $600 or so.
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Old 03-18-2019, 02:16 PM
 
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Extrapolating: a $75k mortgage is about a $100k property. You will need to at least factor in property taxes and homeowners insurance. Your monthly payment goal of $300 cannot be met. In fact the monthly payment would be closer to $600 or so.
I doubt your figures.

My mortgage of 100K IIRC, 3.75% (maybe slightly less, this was years ago but def over 3% and under 4%) rate was around $550, PITI. Taxes were $1500-ish, ins policy $350-ish per annum.

I sold an investment house (paid 35K) in 2016 for 69K. I recall the buyer (I sold it by owner so had direct dealings with her) telling me her mortgage payments (she put very little down as I recall) would be under $300.

I stated I am thinking of a mortgage amt for her around 60K, not 75K. I am thinking 80K max purchase price, in which case I'd put 20K down. Taxes here are ridiculously cheap; as an example, her BF just bought hs first house, 115K, his yearly tax is $558.

She DOES have over two years part time work exp total, thanks for that heads up. She's been working part time, uninterruptedly since June 2016.

#proud

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Old 03-18-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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I doubt your figures.

My mortgage of 100K IIRC, 3.75% (maybe slightly less, this was years ago but def over 3% and under 4%) rate was around $550, PITI. Taxes were $1500-ish, ins policy $350-ish per annum. yes, and rates are higher now

I sold an investment house (paid 35K) in 2016 for 69K. I recall the buyer (I sold it by owner so had direct dealings with her) telling me her mortgage payments (she put very little down as I recall) would be under $300. OK we don't know the size of that mortgage tho

I stated I am thinking of a mortgage amt for her around 60K, not 75K. I am thinking 80K max purchase price, in which case I'd put 20K down. Taxes here are ridiculously cheap; as an example, her BF just bought hs first house, 115K, his yearly tax is $558.

She DOES have over two years part time work exp total, thanks for that heads up. She's been working part time, uninterruptedly since June 2016. that is great

#proud
Not trying to argue...
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Old 03-18-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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I doubt your figures.

My mortgage of 100K IIRC, 3.75% (maybe slightly less, this was years ago but def over 3% and under 4%) rate was around $550, PITI. Taxes were $1500-ish, ins policy $350-ish per annum.

I sold an investment house (paid 35K) in 2016 for 69K. I recall the buyer (I sold it by owner so had direct dealings with her) telling me her mortgage payments (she put very little down as I recall) would be under $300.

I stated I am thinking of a mortgage amt for her around 60K, not 75K. I am thinking 80K max purchase price, in which case I'd put 20K down. Taxes here are ridiculously cheap; as an example, her BF just bought hs first house, 115K, his yearly tax is $558.

She DOES have over two years part time work exp total, thanks for that heads up. She's been working part time, uninterruptedly since June 2016.

#proud
The only way someone buys a $69K home and puts little down and pays under $300 is if they somehow pay the insurance and taxes separately, or if the taxes as $300 a year and insurance is $300 a year.


The only other way I can think of is if they got a USDA direct loan and are under the lowest federal poverty level and were able to pay only 1% interest. The only other way I can think of is if they got that program where Section 8 helps pay for your home and you only have to pay 33% cost and she gets $900 a month.

So I'm not saying you are lying, but she may have given you a wrong number that was so low that I would ask them to prove it with their mortgage statement.

A $69K mortgage even at 3.5% interest is $310 a month, without interest or taxes added.
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