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Old 01-25-2021, 10:18 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I learned to sail on a Windmill 16, a small wooden racer, with no engine. One thing it taught me was to plan ahead. Don't go down that channel 'cause it will be very difficult to sail out of it.
To be the most in-tune with the feel/manueverability of the boat while learning, most 'trainers' have tiller steering and cleats (decreased force on the sails vs. winches), which is another reason a small sailboat is ideal along with capsize practice/recovery. A rotomolded boat is considered (more) optimal (than wood or fiberglass) by many instructors due to its durability/potential damage relative to (and expected from) a beginner. :-)
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Old 01-27-2021, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA USA
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I've sailed with some guys who's first sailboat was a 30 or 40 footer. They were almost all not very good sailors with little feel for what the boat, wind and water are doing.
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Old 01-27-2021, 04:35 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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I've sailed with some guys who's first sailboat was a 30 or 40 footer. They were almost all not very good sailors with little feel for what the boat, wind and water are doing.
Reminds me of a conversation my opinionated, no-auxiliary motor, sailor dad had with the proud first time owner of a 30 foot fiberglass tub.

"Why don't you just sink it right in the slip? It'll save you some moments of sheer panic, expensive tow fees and be a lot safer."

He was never known for his tact.
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Old 01-27-2021, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I learned to sail in 25 to 35 foot boats. As did my two older daughters. The only problem with the ladies was they were more interested in the instructor than the boat. In one of their final classes he brought the bow of the boat to the end of the dock and then jumped off and pushed the boat out. Then told them to dock it properly...which they did after milling around for a couple of minutes in the basin.

I also have a certificate in celestial navigation from UCLA. And I flew airplanes before I took up sailing.

Later on we bought a Catalina boat...a 30 foot rear cabin Carver. We also had a mooring in Avalon.

I also sailed a number of long hauls up and down the coast. Everywhere from Victoria BC down to Puerto Vallarta. I will single hand anything up to about 60 feet. Need a helper in the bigger boat just do to the weight of things. But quite comfortable in any of them. For long haul need at least one other watch stander.

I would note that in the sailing instruction we spent more than a few hours maneuvering under power. In fact one drill was at twilight in a basin a foot or two bigger than the boat. Go in, turn around and go out. And do not break anything in the process. Very educational. Single screw is a learned art.
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Old 01-27-2021, 07:33 PM
 
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America's Cup boats have lithium ion batteries. They don't care about the expense.


Ripping out the diesel auxiliary is a range issue. You can go hundreds of miles on a tank of diesel fuel. What happens if you're dismasted offshore in a big blow and your auxiliary power either needs to work or you drown? You'd need an enormous battery bank for that kind of situation.
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Old 01-27-2021, 10:04 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I learned to sail in 25 to 35 foot boats. As did my two older daughters. The only problem with the ladies was they were more interested in the instructor than the boat. In one of their final classes he brought the bow of the boat to the end of the dock and then jumped off and pushed the boat out. Then told them to dock it properly...which they did after milling around for a couple of minutes in the basin.

I also have a certificate in celestial navigation from UCLA. And I flew airplanes before I took up sailing.

Later on we bought a Catalina boat...a 30 foot rear cabin Carver. We also had a mooring in Avalon.

I also sailed a number of long hauls up and down the coast. Everywhere from Victoria BC down to Puerto Vallarta. I will single hand anything up to about 60 feet. Need a helper in the bigger boat just do to the weight of things. But quite comfortable in any of them. For long haul need at least one other watch stander.

I would note that in the sailing instruction we spent more than a few hours maneuvering under power. In fact one drill was at twilight in a basin a foot or two bigger than the boat. Go in, turn around and go out. And do not break anything in the process. Very educational. Single screw is a learned art.
Hmm - interesting (for several reasons). I, for one, would love to hear more snippets.

Any update from the OP on his story?
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Old 01-28-2021, 11:40 AM
 
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I learned to sail in 25 to 35 foot boats.

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