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Old 01-25-2015, 02:51 PM
 
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I think this movie has the potential to beat Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1 to become the #1 grossing film in North America in 2014
Certainly looks like it could be on it's way to doing that.

Box Office: ‘Boy Next Door’ Rings $500,000 Thursday; ‘American Sniper’ No. 1 | Deadline
$200 million so far, which is quite amazing for a movie that's not a sci-fi/ fantasy movie and coming out mostly in January. I say that as someone who was not the biggest fan of the movie. I liked it, but didn't love it. Don't want that to sound too critical because I thought it was a pretty good movie but basically just a straight forward action/war movie.
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:08 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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In the book, he said he liked killing. That should show that he had mental problems.
Is it also true that he alluded to shooting at people during the looting which followed Katrina?
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:22 PM
 
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I knew someone would chime in with this and soon.

Unforgiven was the most over-rated movie in history until American Beauty came along. It was so bad that is soured me on Eastwood almost indelibly from that point forward.

I thought he might redeem himself somewhat with Gran Torino, and I had high hopes. But it, too, stunk. And it was NOT essential Eastwood.
Your opinion is completely subjective. I for one liked Unforgiven, though westerns aren't really my thing anymore. And I loved American Beauty.
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:23 PM
 
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I didn't sense it in the movie and he certainly didn't allude to it in his book.
Maybe because he didn't want to come across as a p*ssy, which is kind of the point. He was raised to not show fear or emotion like that.
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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Is it also true that he alluded to shooting at people during the looting which followed Katrina?
Yes he did. He also claimed to have killed two people who attacked him in Texas, and claimed to have punched out Jesse Ventura. These were all proven to be not true. Ventura asked him to admit the lie and apologize, he refused. Ventura sued him and after Kyle was killed a jury found in Ventura's favor.
He also bragged about looting homes in Iraq.
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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The article below addresses many of the realities about who Chris Kyle really was and Hollywood's distortions about his life and character. I now have a better understanding of why I did not see the movie I had hoped for. He was a tough, hardened soldier with no remorse whatsoever.

7 heinous lies “American Sniper” is telling America - Salon.com
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:24 PM
 
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It's unfortunate that those who have a genuine and legitimate concern (and unfavorable opinion of) both the movie and Chris Kyle, are being mercilessly attacked politically (liberal losers, America haters, etc. etc.).

Several things were changed in the movie from the book and the real Chris Kyle as a person. The movie portrays Chris as someone that at first is motivated by patriotic reasons, that he killed the 'savages' because he was protecting lives. Yet there was no bluster, no bravado or bragging, in the Kyle character. Which seems different from the real life Kyle, who seemed to relish in what he did. Not judging either way but clearly the movie 'softened' the Kyle character from the book in order to, I don't know, maybe make him seem less controversial and more an 'honorable' person?

The scenes with the guy with the drill didn't happen, as well as many other scenes (the entire dinner table sequence in Iraq as well as the final rooftop sequence, among others). I thought "Lone Survivor" was bad about fabricating scenes.

And the thing is, quite a few audiences seem to be taking as literal truth what is shown throughout the movie.
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:40 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Your opinion is completely subjective. I for one liked Unforgiven, though westerns aren't really my thing anymore. And I loved American Beauty.
As is yours and everyone else's.

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Old 01-25-2015, 11:55 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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It's unfortunate that those who have a genuine and legitimate concern (and unfavorable opinion of) both the movie and Chris Kyle, are being mercilessly attacked politically (liberal losers, America haters, etc. etc.).

Several things were changed in the movie from the book and the real Chris Kyle as a person. The movie portrays Chris as someone that at first is motivated by patriotic reasons, that he killed the 'savages' because he was protecting lives. Yet there was no bluster, no bravado or bragging, in the Kyle character. Which seems different from the real life Kyle, who seemed to relish in what he did. Not judging either way but clearly the movie 'softened' the Kyle character from the book in order to, I don't know, maybe make him seem less controversial and more an 'honorable' person?

The scenes with the guy with the drill didn't happen, as well as many other scenes (the entire dinner table sequence in Iraq as well as the final rooftop sequence, among others). I thought "Lone Survivor" was bad about fabricating scenes.

And the thing is, quite a few audiences seem to be taking as literal truth what is shown throughout the movie.
Agreed. That it is.
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV, U.S.A.
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I think a majority of people who understand this film for what it is are somehow related to the military; have served, or is very close to someone who served, or is a sibling or parent or close relative to someone who served, and knows of the trials and tribulations of being in a war and have killed another human being, and the subsequent post traumatic stress (PTS) and eventual struggle with trying to fit back in to society when it's over and they come home and hang up the uniform. To me, that was the key to Bradley Cooper performance, his portrayal of a fighting soldier coming home and trying to fit back into a society where most don't understand what he went through and the turmoil that goes on in the mind of a PTS victim.
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