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Old 06-21-2015, 07:34 PM
 
Location: SC
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  • I remember "Fatal Attraction" as the first movie where the "baddie" died - or so you thought - only to come back within 5 minutes or so for a second time at the end. There may have been another film before this that used that device; but Fatal Attraction is the first that I recall - from back in 1987. Now, it is a movie cliche. Almost NO bad guy (or gal) goes down and STAYS down anymore. They have to "die" at least twice.

    Q1: Can you name an earlier movie that used this ploy?

  • "Bullitt" of course is credited as being the first "Modern" car chase on film.

  • I cannot name the first movie, but I got pretty tired of every film having to have a torrid love scene - whether it had anything to do with the plot or not; I'm glad that's dead.

    Q2: What other groundbreakers - that are now commonplace can you name? Extra points if the cliche was so overused that it is now fading?
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Old 06-21-2015, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Warwick, RI
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Star Wars changed the way sci-fi fantasy movies were made, and unless I'm wrong, the original trilogy were one of the first "series" type films that are so commonplace today. I remember seeing Star Wars in the theater as a kid and being totally blown away by it because there had never been anything like it before.
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Old 06-21-2015, 07:57 PM
 
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I don't think fatal attraction was the first to use that ploy. I think that has been happening ever since at least the 50'/60s. I remember when that happened in fatal attraction saying to my husband you would think I would expect that by now and not be surprised as I always am. I will have to google or think on what movie this has happened in before. I am not to much of a suspense movie fan so it doesn't come to mind right off.

I think you are right about bullitt.
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Old 06-21-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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was kubrick's 2001 groundbreaking with the sp. effects?
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Old 06-21-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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Much of Jaws was shot on water. That was quite difficult.

How about Avatar for its visuals?

Of course....Star Wars broke some molds

Tremors? Have giant worms ever done that?
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Old 06-21-2015, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The Matrix with bullet-time which has been used in several movies.
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Old 06-21-2015, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Baker City, Oregon
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Falling in slow motion after being shot, etc. It's seen so much now you hardly think about it. Although it had been done a couple of times before and was hardly noticed, Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch really started the ball rolling. (Also blood spurting when being shot, although Peckinpah did it in a stylized way.)

The whole movie but especially this final scene shocked the establishment:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ysVoV3x5Zo

Monty Python even had a skit about the blood:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmcrreUVBeo

The critics: Why was this movie ever made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL7XmN8w_UY

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Old 06-21-2015, 10:23 PM
 
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Q1 - "Greatest Story Ever Told?" (just kidding )

Q2 - "Blair Witch Project" started the shakey cam
"Shindler's List" did the girl in the red dress with the rest of the scene B&W (a reprise of some of the tinting used in early film)
"Elvira Madigan" and the lovers running across open fields
"Bwana Devil" with the cheesy jump out at you 3D effects
"Lawrence of Arabia" with the interminable shot of someone approaching from the distance and getting closer.
"Sound of Music" with the helicopter introductory shot
"Alien" with the Geiger inspired set design.
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Old 06-22-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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1. Jurassic Park
2. The Blair Witch Project
3. Halloween (I consider this the first of the slasher films.)
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Old 06-22-2015, 06:57 AM
 
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  • I remember "Fatal Attraction" as the first movie where the "baddie" died - or so you thought - only to come back within 5 minutes or so for a second time at the end. There may have been another film before this that used that device; but Fatal Attraction is the first that I recall - from back in 1987. Now, it is a movie cliche. Almost NO bad guy (or gal) goes down and STAYS down anymore. They have to "die" at least twice.

    Q1: Can you name an earlier movie that used this ploy?
Carrie (1976)
Halloween (1978)
Phantasm (1979)
Friday the 13th (1980)

The "comeback killer" is actually so much a staple of the slasher genre that it has become cliche. Fatal Attraction was certainly NOT the first to do this. Although, to be fair, Carrie's comeback was a dream sequence. Still, it made audience's scream and toss their popcorn.
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