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"I agree that it's a great movie (although I hope people see it because it's a great movie, not as Michigan Transplant said, because someone is hoping for a cheap naughty thrill)".
No, no, no, that is not what I meant. I was not looking for any type of thrill, let alone a naughty one. I am trying to say that I watched this movie and the other ones to see what all the furor was about when they first came out and came away thinking "people were upset by THIS"? only because by then so much time had gone by and movies had gotten more and more graphic that these movies were tame compared to what was now being made by Hollywood. I understand it is a classic, and am glad so many have and are enjoying it.
Notice how Benjamin Braddock puts a "sir" on "ma'am" on the end of everything he says to those older than himself. Even Mr. & Mrs. Robinson who have known him for most all his life.
In the 60s and 70s, my two sets of grandparents still called each other Mrs. Smith, and Mr. and Mrs. Peterson, after my parents had been married 20 years. I kind of miss the formality, but not the rigid constraints.
The Graduate is definitely a classic film, though was definitely more edgy when it came out in the late '60's than it would be if it were to be released today; I wasn't around then, and only saw the film for the first time in the mid 1990's. With the term "cougar" having become part of our culture these days, the idea of an older woman having an affair with a younger man is fairly common, not unusual (as it was in the film).
For me, what I found most interesting about the film was the idea of the young woman going against her family & community by skipping out on her wedding at the end with Benjamin Braddock (Dustin Hoffman). To me, this truly reflected the anti-establishment tone of the late 1960's counter-culture era (when the movie was released) - even more so than the affair between Mrs. Robinson & Benjamin.
Here's an interesting bit of trivia: Mrs. Robinson was supposed to be old enough to be Benjamin's mother in the film. However, in reality, they were only 6 years apart: DH was 30, and Anne Bancroft (Mrs. Robinson) was 36.
Note I also remember reading that in the classic Hitchcock film North by Northwest, the actress who played Cary Grant's mother (can't remember her name) was not much older than Cary Grant - even though she was supposed to be old enough to be his mother.
[i]Here's an interesting bit of trivia: Mrs. Robinson was supposed to be old enough to be Benjamin's mother in the film. However, in reality, they were only 6 years apart: DH was 30, and Anne Bancroft (Mrs. Robinson) was 36.
Note I also remember reading that in the classic Hitchcock film North by Northwest, the actress who played Cary Grant's mother (can't remember her name) was not much older than Cary Grant - even though she was supposed to be old enough to be his mother.
Not totally surprising, since they're actors. That's Hollywood's way.
In the 60s and 70s, my two sets of grandparents still called each other Mrs. Smith, and Mr. and Mrs. Peterson, after my parents had been married 20 years. I kind of miss the formality, but not the rigid constraints.
Am not that old but this new trend of implied informality just rubs me the wrong way.
You call up your credit card company, electric company or whatever and soon as they finish obtaining your information it is all "Hi Bob, what can I do for you today"? Emails, letters any contact from a business, company and so forth it is the same thing, use of one's Christian name by total strangers. Go out to a restaurant? Your waiter, some kid just out of short pants is addressing you as if the two of you have been friends for ages.
"I agree that it's a great movie (although I hope people see it because it's a great movie, not as Michigan Transplant said, because someone is hoping for a cheap naughty thrill)".
No, no, no, that is not what I meant. I was not looking for any type of thrill, let alone a naughty one. I am trying to say that I watched this movie and the other ones to see what all the furor was about when they first came out and came away thinking "people were upset by THIS"? only because by then so much time had gone by and movies had gotten more and more graphic that these movies were tame compared to what was now being made by Hollywood. I understand it is a classic, and am glad so many have and are enjoying it.
That's my reaction when I read 19th century novels: "What? They were shocked by Wuthering Heights?"
Am not that old but this new trend of implied informality just rubs me the wrong way.
You call up your credit card company, electric company or whatever and soon as they finish obtaining your information it is all "Hi Bob, what can I do for you today"? Emails, letters any contact from a business, company and so forth it is the same thing, use of one's Christian name by total strangers. Go out to a restaurant? Your waiter, some kid just out of short pants is addressing you as if the two of you have been friends for ages.
Bugsy, Pal... what I'm understanding you to say is that you'd prefer today's snot-nosed youngsters not use informal vocabulary like, "Hi, Guys" and "Bye, Guys"? What would be your preference?
Bugsy, Pal... what I'm understanding you to say is that you'd prefer today's snot-nosed youngsters not use informal vocabulary like, "Hi, Guys" and "Bye, Guys"? What would be your preference?
I agree that premature informality in business drives me crazy. On the phone, I'll pointedly introduce myself as Ms. Cida, although not so much in person. But in person I'll start calling the employee Mr. or Ms. and hope they take a hint. According to Miss Manners, I'd be perfectly within my rights to correct them, though. And if someone first-names me on the phone, I'll coldly say, "Ms. Cida."
Am not that old but this new trend of implied informality just rubs me the wrong way.
You call up your credit card company, electric company or whatever and soon as they finish obtaining your information it is all "Hi Bob, what can I do for you today"? Emails, letters any contact from a business, company and so forth it is the same thing, use of one's Christian name by total strangers. Go out to a restaurant? Your waiter, some kid just out of short pants is addressing you as if the two of you have been friends for ages.
I know, right? I hate hugging strangers too. Shake my hand, if I, as an older woman, extend it first. There are existing rules of etiquette in place for this. Why meddle with them?
Bugsy, Pal... what I'm understanding you to say is that you'd prefer today's snot-nosed youngsters not use informal vocabulary like, "Hi, Guys" and "Bye, Guys"? What would be your preference?
One prefers not being addressed by strangers as if they have known one on an intimate basis for years.
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