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Old 01-30-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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So after the last installment in the planet of the apes reboot it's obvious that humanity and the apes are now going to war. But there is one rather big plothole in the film: The fact that the apes could never actually win such a war.

There are 2 reasons for this: Humanity has way more advanced technology and the understanding needed to use it. And second, far more advanced strategy and tactics. Sure the apes may be bigger and stronger, but that doesn't mean much if they don't understand the strategy needed to fight a modern war. Just look at the way they attacked the human city with a mindless frontal attack and suffered massive losses, almost to a point of losing had Koba not taken over the tank.

I know the apes will win the war since this is a planet of the apes movie, but the idea of it makes no sense really.
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Old 01-30-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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So after the last installment in the planet of the apes reboot it's obvious that humanity and the apes are now going to war. But there is one rather big plothole in the film: The fact that the apes could never actually win such a war.

There are 2 reasons for this: Humanity has way more advanced technology and the understanding needed to use it. And second, far more advanced strategy and tactics. Sure the apes may be bigger and stronger, but that doesn't mean much if they don't understand the strategy needed to fight a modern war. Just look at the way they attacked the human city with a mindless frontal attack and suffered massive losses, almost to a point of losing had Koba not taken over the tank.

I know the apes will win the war since this is a planet of the apes movie, but the idea of it makes no sense really.
I think you are really overthinking this....
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Old 01-30-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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I think you are really overthinking this....
Well, when you got nothing better to do...
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:08 AM
 
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It would be a pretty short film if it went the way it could "in real life."

A single Navy ship parked off the coast of Marin County could rain some heavy ordnance on the apes' habitat as long as one of the survivors has forward observer skills from their time in the military. Sonic weaponry to disorient them, infrared lasers to destroy the apes' eyesight, lay into them with machine guns; mankind has always been adept at the killing spirit.

That said, mankind also becomes complacent. The survivors are still alive due more to the genetic lottery instead of survivalist or military training. The apes also require less creature comforts than humans, and seem to fight with more tenacity.

I agree that the small population of Caesar's clan isn't enough to dominate the planet, but much like the Chinese today, I'm sure they're willing to play the long game.
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Old 01-31-2016, 10:01 PM
 
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Humans are another type of ape, so it's already Planet of the Apes. It's really ape on ape violence.
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Old 01-31-2016, 10:18 PM
 
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I'm waiting for the next chapter.
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Old 02-01-2016, 05:51 AM
 
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PoA is one of those stories where you can't overthink it or the whole thing falls apart. I mean: Apes can't talk. They just can't. And it isn't because they aren't smart enough. The shape of their throats and mouths is not conducive to human speech. It is physically impossible for an ape to speak English, no matter how smart you make him.

So don't worry about it. Just sit back and enjoy the movie.

Also: There is no sound in outer space. But if this keeps you from enjoying STAR WARS, you have missed the point.
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Old 02-01-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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So after the last installment in the planet of the apes reboot it's obvious that humanity and the apes are now going to war. But there is one rather big plothole in the film: The fact that the apes could never actually win such a war.

There are 2 reasons for this: Humanity has way more advanced technology and the understanding needed to use it. And second, far more advanced strategy and tactics. Sure the apes may be bigger and stronger, but that doesn't mean much if they don't understand the strategy needed to fight a modern war. Just look at the way they attacked the human city with a mindless frontal attack and suffered massive losses, almost to a point of losing had Koba not taken over the tank.

I know the apes will win the war since this is a planet of the apes movie, but the idea of it makes no sense really.
The sequel has a virus decimate the majority of the human population. That coupled with the apes growing numbers could turn the tide.
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Old 02-06-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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So after the last installment in the planet of the apes reboot it's obvious that humanity and the apes are now going to war. But there is one rather big plothole in the film: The fact that the apes could never actually win such a war.

There are 2 reasons for this: Humanity has way more advanced technology and the understanding needed to use it. And second, far more advanced strategy and tactics. Sure the apes may be bigger and stronger, but that doesn't mean much if they don't understand the strategy needed to fight a modern war. Just look at the way they attacked the human city with a mindless frontal attack and suffered massive losses, almost to a point of losing had Koba not taken over the tank.

I know the apes will win the war since this is a planet of the apes movie, but the idea of it makes no sense really.
I know.

Why can't they make movies about talking chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans that are realistic?

Also, I'm beginning to suspect that getting bitten by a genetically-engineered spider wouldn't really turn a person into a spider-man.
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Old 02-06-2016, 07:24 PM
 
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I know.

Why can't they make movies about talking chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans that are realistic?
"You can make people believe the impossible, but not the implausible"

-Some guy who's name I don't remember
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