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Old 12-21-2016, 05:04 PM
 
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I noted the planting of a plot point for an upcoming film "The heart of the greatest stars are Kyhber." That implies that at least one plotline will revolve around the finding and interactions with such a star.
I believe it was Chirrut who said "The strongest stars have hearts made of Kyber." I don't think it was foreshadowing, however.
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Old 12-26-2016, 05:05 PM
 
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A dozen or so deleted posts later, I have one thing to say to you all:
This is not the politics forum, if you hijack threads to be about politics outside of politics, you will be punished for trolling. It's that simple. No, not only you - this works the same for both "sides" of this silly partisan conflict.
Yac.
You could clearly see that I was responding to someone who came up with political issues out of the air, debunking them. Clearly I was not trying to have a political debate, so the threat was totally unwarranted.
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Old 12-26-2016, 05:11 PM
 
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I agree with this sentiment. If this had been the first movie of the franchise, I'd have loved it. No, it didn't grab me as hard as the first 10 seconds of "A New Hope: grabbed me on that first weekend in 1977, but I'd darn sure watch the sequel.

It was kind of "The Dirty Dozen Saving Private Ryan from the Guns of Navarone," but it was really, really good.
You know, I was thinking the same thing as far as it not grabbing me the same way it did in 1977. However, we do have to keep in mind that in 1977 we were blown away by the movie technology we were witnessing pretty much for the first time! Irregardless of the story, watching a spaceship actually look like it's jumping to lightspeed blew my mind! So, the story could have actually sucked, and we still would have been content just due to all the special effects! It will take a lot for a movie to make us feel that way again, because we've seen so much now. Again, Lord of the Rings got that feeling out of me with their beautiful cinematography and landscapes. However, most everything else is a little blah, because we're all used to seeing it now. To be totally honest, Rogue One much like A New Hope, blew my mind with the special effects when it came to the CGI Tarkin and even the Princess Leia. Bringing people back from the dead, or making them look 40 years younger is the next Frontier! LOL
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Old 12-26-2016, 05:18 PM
 
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Agree with pretty much everything you said.

You're right, the prequels told the story but seemed a little "off".

Rogue One felt completely on. The story of how they got the plans. It was completely awesome.

The CGI did not bother me at all. They looked real enough to me and were completely necessary to tell the story correctly. The reference to "the Jedi" in the one scene with Senator Organa and Mon Mathma, who of course is Obi Wan, who they both acknowledged was in hiding,blew me away. Then the ending....Incredible.

I wish the prequels were as good as this. Rogue One IS Star Wars.
Yes, Rogue One was more Star Wars then Star Wars. LOL. I'm speaking of the prequels of course. The CGI characters we're done well enough to be very acceptable. I mean damn, we can expect them to actually resurrect a person! That's as good as it's going to get, and I for one thought it was pretty damn good. Yes, it should probably be done for shorter scenes. I wouldn't want an entire movie with a CGI person as the star, but it was not bad at all considering the person doesn't actually exist! They literally need an Oscar for this!

Speaking on the prequels, I for one would have no problem with them redoing the prequels all over again! Perhaps they can explain the prior prequels as a huge dream sequence, have that person wake up and then tell the story the right way. LOL.
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Old 12-26-2016, 05:18 PM
 
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I agree with this sentiment. If this had been the first movie of the franchise, I'd have loved it. No, it didn't grab me as hard as the first 10 seconds of "A New Hope: grabbed me on that first weekend in 1977, but I'd darn sure watch the sequel.

It was kind of "The Dirty Dozen Saving Private Ryan from the Guns of Navarone," but it was really, really good.
The Dirty Dozen especially. From The way George Lucas changed characters from the original airing the rebels seemed like real people again and not allied saints
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Old 12-26-2016, 08:53 PM
 
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You know, I was thinking the same thing as far as it not grabbing me the same way it did in 1977. However, we do have to keep in mind that in 1977 we were blown away by the movie technology we were witnessing pretty much for the first time! Irregardless of the story, watching a spaceship actually look like it's jumping to lightspeed blew my mind! So, the story could have actually sucked, and we still would have been content just due to all the special effects!
That's true. It displayed many things we'd imagined and had never seen. And even recognizing the old matinee tropes was grand fun--even got in some Errol Flynn swashbuckling rope swings. Great fun all the way through.

Rogue One is a more mature product in a number of ways than A New Hope. For one, the story itself is more mature because we are a different generation. Some people complain that Rogue One is "too real" in its depiction of the story of desperate rebels fighting a near invincible empire. Well, we aren't the same generation that we were in 1977.

So starting with characters who "have done some questionable things," it's also a story of their successful act of redemption. This is not a tragic story.
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Old 12-26-2016, 09:36 PM
 
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Rogue One was waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than that hunk o' crap we all know as The Force Awakens.
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Old 12-27-2016, 11:44 AM
 
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there is only one star wars pix worth watching and thats the original back in '77
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Old 12-27-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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Yes, Rogue One was more Star Wars then Star Wars. LOL. I'm speaking of the prequels of course. The CGI characters we're done well enough to be very acceptable. I mean damn, we can expect them to actually resurrect a person! That's as good as it's going to get, and I for one thought it was pretty damn good. Yes, it should probably be done for shorter scenes. I wouldn't want an entire movie with a CGI person as the star, but it was not bad at all considering the person doesn't actually exist! They literally need an Oscar for this!

Speaking on the prequels, I for one would have no problem with them redoing the prequels all over again! Perhaps they can explain the prior prequels as a huge dream sequence, have that person wake up and then tell the story the right way. LOL.
Nah. I'm fine with the prequels. Some cringeworthy lines, yes and Episode I isn't needed much besides A) Setting up the fact that Palpy is playing everyone B) seeing Anakin leave his mom. But besides that, they were fine. Episode III is still one of my favorite SW movies. But other than that, I love the story Lucas told with the prequels, just wish it were written better/explained better. More "I'm basically turning governments against each other to gain power for myself" rather than "we're going to discuss the taxation of trade routes...or something".

If Disney remade them, it would just have some teeny bopper douche from some Disney Channel show playing Anakin and him being 100% awesome and then reusing Xwings and Tie Fighters the entire time and keep making references to ANH. I like the way Hayden portrayed Anakin, to the point where I can't see anyone else being the future Vader now. (Not the kid Anakin....yuck...so many better kid actors than that kid).
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Old 12-27-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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Clone Wars Anakin was much better developed in becoming Darth Vader than Attack of the Clones or Revenge of the Sith Anakin.
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