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Originally Posted by ironpony
Which sci-fi movie do you think was better?
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Planet of the Apes, hands down.
Why? Because there was so much open to alternate lines of thought in that movie. From astronauts actually being on an unknown planet circling a star in the belt of Orion to what was the real purpose of those scarecrows to what Dr. Zaius was picturing in his mind to where Taylor came from to what he could have been thinking when he scratched out what Taylor wrote in the sand to what kind of animal experiments were approved in Dr. Zera's office (when Dr. Zaius found Taylor in her house) to the words of Tribunal when they talked to Taylor about Landon about recognizing his kinsman and so forth and onward and etc, etc, etc..
While T 2 was fun, it was all rather spelled out. There were no questions through out the movie to ponder about after wards. no what ifs.
Another thing about Planet over T 2 is that in the former, they made a movie that told the story without having to go into extravagant special effects through out. The Icarus crash scene was a work of genius.
HOWEVER, in most of the Ape movies afterwards, it varies, depends. Beneath runs rather even steven with T 2. T 2 wins over Escape though there was one question with the latter. Given our world as such, how do they know that there was not a third Icarus spacecraft, perhaps never launched?
Conquest may lost to T 2 as sci fi but win out in just being a better movie from the quality of the actors playing their parts to the mannerisms (Caesar returning the chains to his guard) to the detailed under pinnings of a police society such as the final interrogation of Armando.
As far as Battle goes, I would have to award that to T 2 over all.
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Originally Posted by Moth
Love them both with a nod towards POA.
Sadly, artistic license aside, they both seem more than a bit possible in reality.
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Depends on how one looks at it, especially if one looks at it only from that film.
For example, one of the goofs noted in PotA is that the water pressure the Icarus experienced in its sinking is impossible for how little of it was underwater. While I haven't submitted a correction for that (one opinion to another), consider A, B, and C if looked at it from the aspect of what we know only from one movie.
A: We don't know how much of the Icarus is underwater. We assume that it is just the command module but that information is given to us basically from Escape. How do we not know there is not, say, an engine section below the water line that is deeper, experiencing different pressures, is under going reactions between the water and fuel?
B: At that point in the movie, we do not know we are on Earth; therefore, if we are on a different planet, water may be with different properties to what we know on Earth. After all, consider Ice - 9 in "Cat's Craddle".
C: In that movie, we eventually find out that we are on Earth but just as the Statue of Liberty might be moved after a nuclear exchange, so might the properties of water be changed, such as with water it self or the way it moves such as with thermoclines in temperature and pressure. Could puncturing a thermocline (or a reaction with the rocket fuel necessary for light travel) cause a sub surface rogue wave necessary to the pressure observed? Who knows......but it is fascinating to think about.
Another thing. Many years ago, I was doing a monologue of Dr. Heather Floyd, talking to my husband Jonathan, about the risks involved in aerobraking to slow the Leonov in its approach to Jupiter (2010: Odyssey Two). The problem in presentation is the time lag it takes for the message to get to Earth and back but one of my classmates observed, "Hey, if we can send manned probes to Jupiter, they must have undoubtly figured out a way to send instant communications back and forth.".
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