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Old 06-28-2019, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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I was always bothered by the scenes in the Beverly Hills shops with the arrogant clerks. She's goes back the next day to prove that she had the money.

What bothers me is that there are so many women who are actually that concerned about those kinds of things, such as the opinion of a Beverly Hills storekeeper towards them.
The women that work in those shops are on commission and most can only afford to actually buy there with a deep company discount. Her point was that SHE could afford to pay RETAIL.
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Old 06-28-2019, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I was always bothered by the scenes in the Beverly Hills shops with the arrogant clerks. She's goes back the next day to prove that she had the money.

What bothers me is that there are so many women who are actually that concerned about those kinds of things, such as the opinion of a Beverly Hills storekeeper towards them.
That part of the movie was actually quite realistic. Lots of people who work in these upscale stores will act very snooty towards the customers, even the customers who are spending money. That's why I don't shop in those places and do more online shopping these days. So I don't have to deal with some idiot's "attitude".
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Old 07-02-2019, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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But it's suppose to be a Cinderella story and Cinderella is not supposed to be super attractive to guys though. Plus she is also a prostitute, and not to sound bad, but I have never seen a really goodlooking one on the streets when driving, so isn't that part of the Cinderella story?
You have Cinderella totally wrong. Cinderella is supposed to be the most beautiful girl of all once she's clean and dressed up in finery, but she is so poor, dirty and bedraggled her beauty isn't instantly noticed.

Cinderella is no prostitute; she's a house servant.
She doesn't go out on the streets, and when she does, it's only to clean out the chamber pots and other grunge work. She is the lowest of the low, far beneath any prince's notice. If she was noticed at all by a prince, he would feel disgust, not love, when he saw her.

That's what makes the story work. By sheer luck, the ugliest duckling becomes the finest white swan. The glass slipper, made of glass so it could not stretch, fit Cinderella's dainty. dirty foot. Once the dirt was cleaned off, she became the beautiful girl that was always there underneath.

Back when it was written, no commoner could ever dream of marrying a prince. Royalty married royalty, period, no exceptions. Beauty didn't matter when it came to royal marriage.

Walt Disney didn't make his Cinderella dirty enough, and Cinderella wasn't treated as cruelly as she was in the story. And she wasn't as young in the movie as she was in the story.
All that has confused you, but Disney cleaned up all of his movies based on fairy tales a lot. If Disney had followed any of them closely, they all would have been much more horrible and not fit for kids.

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Old 07-02-2019, 08:19 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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You have Cinderella totally wrong. Cinderella is supposed to be the most beautiful girl of all once she's clean and dressed up in finery, but she is so poor, dirty and bedraggled her beauty isn't instantly noticed.

Walt Disney didn't make his Cinderella dirty enough, and Cinderella wasn't treated as cruelly as she was in the story.
Except that stepmother was pretty horrible, even in the Disney story.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg_myyAzBbs
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Old 07-03-2019, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Except that stepmother was pretty horrible, even in the Disney story.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg_myyAzBbs
Yeah. Thought he did clean the old fairy tales up, Disney still kept some of their horror. It was what made them all work so well.

So while the Wicked Queen in Snow White wasn't beheaded like she was in the story, she still poisoned Snow White. And while Snow White didn't appear to die in agony, like the story, she still died.
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Old 07-11-2019, 04:24 PM
 
Location: The end of the world
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Pretty Woman is fiction. Its purpose is to entertain. It is not a morality play.

It's not the problem of filmmakers if someone is dumb enough to think that the local megaplex is a good place to learn about the lives of sex workers.
Sleeping with people for money is not a job class. Your in a pornography maybe.....it is but otherwise the answer is no
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Old 07-15-2019, 03:07 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I recently watched an interview with Julia Roberts and she was talking about how she was cast to play in the darker and grittier original version, and then somehow, over the course of a weekend, that project was nixed, director Garry Marshall was brought onboard, and the whole project took a different turn and was morphed into the version that we see today. Just kind of funny how she virtually went from playing one role to another, in the very same project.
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Old 08-22-2019, 01:48 PM
 
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Pretty Woman is fiction. Its purpose is to entertain. It is not a morality play.

It's not the problem of filmmakers if someone is dumb enough to think that the local megaplex is a good place to learn about the lives of sex workers.


Excuse me, but anyone knows that fiction often hopes to lead the way in real life, and people do take cues from fiction. In fact, that's the whole point of product placement.
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Old 08-23-2019, 05:13 AM
 
Location: North America
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Excuse me, but anyone knows that fiction often hopes to lead the way in real life, and people do take cues from fiction. In fact, that's the whole point of product placement.
I recently saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but I'm not trying to acquire a flamethrower for home protection. I saw Pretty Woman as well and, guess what? It didn't lead me to start patronizing prostitutes, or to become a pimp. Did you become a prostitute after you saw it? There's a vast gulf between "Hey, Julia Roberts is drinking a Coke in that film, I think I'll start drinking that, too!" and "Hey, Julia Roberts has intercourse for money in that film, I think I'll start hooking, too!".

But that's all irrelevant, because - as I said - it's not the problem of filmmakers to pander to the lowest denominator of human cognition. If there was a spate of idiots in the 1980s trying to build time machines out of DeLoreans, that's hardly the fault of Robert Zemeckis.
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