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Old 10-29-2019, 02:10 PM
 
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"[b]ecause we expect to learn something from cinema"<----------That simply is not true. Cinema is movies, period. No matter how loud these snobby, out-of-touch old fools are.
"We" are a lot of people.
Some people expect to learn something from cinema, while some others expect to simply be entertained, or to be scared, or to be swept away by CGI-heavy escapism in their cinema.
Neither side is wrong; neither side is better or worse than the other.
And no matter how much these idiots want to claim that their films are "real art" versus "commerce," the reality is that the concept of art has always been and will always be subjective, regardless of all the lamentations from the minority elite that insists that their "art" is better than our "commerce."
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Old 10-29-2019, 04:17 PM
 
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"Lack of risk" is the key phrase. That's what made the Marvel line so successful.

A CBM like Man of Steel was 100% risk and its director was pilloried (still is).

A sad state of affairs.
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Old 10-29-2019, 04:36 PM
 
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"Lack of risk" is the key phrase. That's what made the Marvel line so successful.

A CBM like Man of Steel was 100% risk and its director was pilloried (still is).

A sad state of affairs.

People didn't like New Coke, either.


Audiences often detest risk as much as producers. Sometimes people want to put out their cash on known quantities.


And "there ain't no shame in that."
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Old 10-29-2019, 05:40 PM
 
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The difference was New Coke sucked.
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Old 10-30-2019, 08:31 AM
 
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I think there's also a large group of persons that want movies they can take their kids to but also enjoy themselves and a lot of these movies fill the bill. Not too many Scorsese movies to take kids or grands to.
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Old 10-30-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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"Lack of risk" is the key phrase. That's what made the Marvel line so successful.

A CBM like Man of Steel was 100% risk and its director was pilloried (still is).

A sad state of affairs.
How was Man of Steel, a big-budget, multi-million-dollar blockbuster starring the most iconic superhero of all time a risk? (it's right there on his name...he literally is the character that put the super in superhero, and the character without whom we would not have any other).
How was this film a risk? I mean, it was darker than what we would associate with Superman, but otherwise it was a typical CBM (which, by the way, I have no problem with...all movies follow the tropes of its genre...nothing wrong with all CBMS adhering to certain tropes, just like romcoms do and even gangster films (hello, Mr. Scorcese) do.
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:04 PM
 
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Scorsese might be best known for gangster films, but let's not overlook his incredibly varied catalog of thrillers, horror, comedies and biographies, and one
PG-rated family adventure. Silence was released a couple years ago, not many gangsters in that film.

Meanwhile, virtually all superhero movies, especially MCU, are uniformly superhero movies.
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Old 10-30-2019, 07:01 PM
 
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Meanwhile, virtually all superhero movies, especially MCU, are uniformly superhero movies.

"Ain't no shame in that."
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Old 10-30-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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Meanwhile, virtually all superhero movies, especially MCU, are uniformly superhero movies.
All super hero movies are super hero movies? Is that really what you meant? What am I missing?

All Westerns are Westerns too.
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Old 10-30-2019, 09:59 PM
 
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Right, but not all Scorsese movies are gangster movies, not even the majority of them.
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