Borderline Snuff films? (horror, directors, watching, scary)

[MPC2000]

I was looking through the internet and I remember seeing the first Saw film on some bootleg download, and all throughout this I just couldn't fathom even finishing it becuase it was too gory.

There was a time when I was younger that I would love to see a Friday the 13th because of the element of surprise.

I just finished(or barely finished) watching this stupid film Vacancy. I swear the minute I saw the first second person in the film get stabbed multiples as if it was real, I had to stop the film. I've seen films like Texas Chainsaw Massacre and I remember I couldn't even finish that one neither(the new film) and now there's the mediocre films such as Saw, Hostel(which really ridiculous) and Midnight meat train, which all show the actual pulling of teeth as though they were pulling out of actual cadaver.

My question is as you get older, does your tolerance for these films get weaker, or are movies just becoming so unimaginative that they've succumbed to snuff films.

I've never seen what I've seen in Nightmare on Elm Street what I've seen in Saw(never saw the sequels, the first one was more than enough)

So are movie makers just running out of tricks

[averagejoe76]

I guess people always have to move things to a new level or new low?
To keep shocking people.

[LaoTzuMindFu]

Borderline snuff films? I guess it may appear that way to someone who is unable to distinguish real from created art but not for most regular movie loving people.

Maybe its just that you dont like and cant handle gory movies. Ive never heard of anyone mistaking these films or the content in them for the real thing. Have you always been so sensitive to these types of movies?

[anadyr21]

Originally Posted by MPC2000

I was looking through the internet and I remember seeing the first Saw film on some bootleg download, and all throughout this I just couldn't fathom even finishing it becuase it was too gory.

There was a time when I was younger that I would love to see a Friday the 13th because of the element of surprise.

I just finished(or barely finished) watching this stupid film Vacancy. I swear the minute I saw the first second person in the film get stabbed multiples as if it was real, I had to stop the film. I've seen films like Texas Chainsaw Massacre and I remember I couldn't even finish that one neither(the new film) and now there's the mediocre films such as Saw, Hostel(which really ridiculous) and Midnight meat train, which all show the actual pulling of teeth as though they were pulling out of actual cadaver.

My question is as you get older, does your tolerance for these films get weaker, or are movies just becoming so unimaginative that they've succumbed to snuff films.

I've never seen what I've seen in Nightmare on Elm Street what I've seen in Saw(never saw the sequels, the first one was more than enough)

So are movie makers just running out of tricks

As an avid horror/slasher movie fan, none of the films you named come close to snuff. Graphic, yes.

To answer your question, for me, as I've gotten older, I have less tolerance to slasher movies because many of them ARE unimaginative, have no real plot, take themselves too seriously, and "kill" just to do so. I change the channel because the movie is just too stupid to watch. So, I would say a little bit of both; less tolerance as you get older + lack of imagination by filmakers are both at play.

However, the examples you used aren't even close to some of the worst that's out there, and honestly, I thought Saw and TCM (the original), were quite well done.

[Mark S.]

Too many of today's "horror" films aren't horror. They're just torture porn. Not my thing.

The first Friday the 13th movie, violent as it was, still managed a few genuine scares and even managed one gut-busting laugh. Not a bad movie at all. The second one had a few moments. After that, they were just silly.

I never could get into any of the Freddy Krueger movies. Silly and un-scary.

[harry chickpea]

The bottom line is that slasher movies and "snuff" films are pure profit generating shlock designed as pornography (in the sense that pornography gratuitously encourages prurient anti-social cravings and titillates the emotions of those so inclined).

I worked directly in the movie industry for more years than most viewers of such films have been alive. I'll state it clearly, directly and with no equivocation. There is absolutely no socially redeeming value to such trash, and in comparison to slasher films, "Deep Throat" is equivalent to "Grapes of Wrath." I can guarantee you that the ONLY aspect of those films that the producers and directors cared about was the amount of cash they could rake in off idiots, and the leveerage they could get out of the films to advance their careers. I've met a few of them. A discussion of the merits of slasher and snuff films is a less valuable than a discussion of the merits of the size of manure droppings of mice. But... if you must... enjoy yourselves.

[Bluesmama]

Snuff films are for REAL. I don't consider these movies border-line; you either murder someone right in front of the camera or you don't.

I've grown desensitized to these movies. First time I ever saw 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre' I was afraid to go to sleep ~ and I was an adult. Fast-forward a couple of decades and it did nothing, all because I watched too many gory movies since then. I love the "SAW" flicks. They have a clever writer and they manage to make me cringe once in awhile. If I can't watch something I just close my eyes.

I think the movie that shook me up the worst was "Caligula". I found it shocking in many ways, largely because the man truly was that brutal.

[Interpol76]

Cannibal Holocaust......I've heard things about that film.

[averagejoe76]

I think the movie that shook me up the worst was "Caligula". I found it shocking in many ways, largely because the man truly was that brutal.[/quote]

Saw had an interesting concept but too much over the top gore...
I found Caligula somewhat shocking as well,and for a mainstream movie
It really pushed the limits(the unrated version anyway)