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Old 07-21-2010, 05:55 PM
 
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Regarding rock and roll's humble beginnings, it doesn't get any better, or more influential, than Buddy Holly. If there ever was a Mount Rushmore of music figures of the 20th century, he should be up there. From his first single around May of 1957 (Peggy Sue), to "The Day The Music Died" when on February 3, 1959 he died in that plane crash, he accomplished so much in that year and nine months that he was alive.

He had talent, drive, and the desire to succeed like few others did. Few 50's rockers wrote their own material. He did. When he hooked up with Norman Petty in his very early years before hitting it big, he learned to be more than a singer and a songwriter and the leader of the Crickets. He learned the production end of things, like how to run the mixer board; how to double track; stuff like this.

I can't imagine what this guy could have accomplished if he was still with us today.

OK, enough of my rambling. I know we have some Buddy Holly fans on the board here. What say you on Buddy?
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Old 07-21-2010, 07:47 PM
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Great idea, DOUBLE H. It just so happens I'm in Buddy Holly's hometown right now as I write this.

And I can still post the following without audio capability, but it bears starting with.

That'll Be The Day - Buddy Holly


YouTube - Buddy Holly - That'll Be the Day
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:53 AM
 
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Hey case! Whazzup? As you're in Lubbock right now, was wondering about the construction work that is being done around that complex where the statue is. I was googling Holly this morning online and came up with an interesting item on "Lubbock Online" (from June 24th), that the statue is being relocated a short distance due to the construction there. If you happen to be close to the complex there, what can you tell us about it?
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:07 PM
 
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Regarding rock and roll's humble beginnings, it doesn't get any better, or more influential, than Buddy Holly.
Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, and the Ike Turner who produced and led the bands on those earlier southern R and B sides (including "Rocket 88," arguably the first rock and roll record) might give you an argument there---but they might also say that Buddy Holly was right up there with them. Even James Brown admired the guy.

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Few 50's rockers wrote their own material. He did.
More of them wrote their own material than you or a lot of people think, but unscrupulous producers and managers usually stole the songwriting credits (it didn't begin or end with the ripoffs imposed on Frankie Lymon) or wangled their way onto getting the credits in exchange for this or that little favour here and there. (It went the other way around, too, for that matter, most notoriously but not exclusively Col. Tom Parker insisting on his client, Elvis Presley, getting a co-writing credit if songwriters such as Otis Blackwell or the Mae Axton-Tommy Durden team who wrote "Heartbreak Hotel" wanted to pitch songs to Presley. Elvis was many things but a songwriter he wasn't.)

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When [Holly] hooked up with Norman Petty in his very early years before hitting it big, he learned to be more than a singer and a songwriter and the leader of the Crickets. He learned the production end of things, like how to run the mixer board; how to double track; stuff like this.
That was simple enough for Holly to do---he was one of those rare birds in that time and place who knew what he was doing in the first place, knew what he wanted, and had a hunger to listen and learn. Curtis Mayfield, then stepping up to lead the Impressions when Jerry Butler was walking out of the group for a solo career, had the same knowledge and the same hunger and did much the same thing for himself, which was probably a lot more difficult considering the ways in which black performers got ripped off or beaten down.

Holly probably could have taught himself the studio---hell, it became as much his instrument as his guitar was. Small wonder a group of Liverpool teenagers then calling themselves the Quarrymen loved his music (and his group's name, which put the bug in them to think of an insect name for themselves in the first place) and eventually came to use the studio as an instrument equal to the ones they actually played . . .

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I can't imagine what this guy could have accomplished if he was still with us today.
That's something like saying you can't imagine what Mickey Mantle would have accomplished if he'd been completely healthy for his playing career. Why imagine anything like that when what they actually did accomplish was so much? Buddy Holly doesn't need any such imagining. He did more in three years than a lot of rockers wish they could have done in thirty.
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Old 07-22-2010, 02:36 PM
 
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YouTube - Buddy Holly - Not Fade Away
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Old 07-22-2010, 04:55 PM
 
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Norman Petty Studios in Clovis, New Mexico still exists, and I toured the place by appointment when I lived out there.

Kenneth Broad, who gives tours at the studio was a very nice guy and introduced me someone who was sweeping the sidewalk. Couldn't remember his name but he sang backup on a few of Buddy's tunes. Anyone else been there?

NORMAN PETTY STUDIOS - Clovis, NM - Official Site
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Old 07-22-2010, 05:07 PM
 
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I have, a couple times. It was during Buddy Holly days that Clovis has every September. Was lucky to meet Vi Petty, Norman's wife, when she was still alive and assisting on the tours. The first time I went was in 1987, I believe. An amazing place. If one is going to visit the Buddy Holly museum in Lubbock, the Petty studios in Clovis is a must see as it is only maybe 90 some miles west on Hwy. 84.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:41 PM
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His statue is, indeed, being removed from the West Texas Walk of Fame. It will be stored away until it's moved to a new park named for both Buddy and wife Maria Elena, and will be located at 19th and Crickets, next to the Buddy Holly Museum. Meanwhile, the other reason for the move? City officials are tearing down a fountain.
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