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Axel Grease, you have my musical brain engaged now! For those who have some background on power chords (and those who don't) here is an introduction on what he is speaking of.
I listened to Kid Rock, went back to Limp Bizkit, then listened to Linkin Park, and they are defiantly real, giving voice to what is felt by millions, worldwide. I NEVER would have heard these bands on my own, quickly by passing them. My first week here has broaden me musically and lyrically.
Music might seem pessimistic now but remember the world the coming of age crowd is inheriting; fear of mortal death, fear of blood, fear of sex that possibly brings both. Most I see now, grew up in an age where experimentation was without risk of suffering or death and cannot understand the alienation and pre-occupation with technology and its virtual worlds that the youth worldwide live in. The bands you selected Axel speak openly... Anything else you want to add will be appreciated.
From the 1984 album "Morbid Tales" Celtic Frost - Procreation of the Wicked
BigSwede, Crust Metal/Hardcore is new here? yes I agree that it started it all and am happy you accept Hardcore. Do you have any favorites in that subgenre? Crust lovers get off on the bassy, fast pace tempo and guttural vocals, the tempo also changes to slow. My exposure was through Venom and I can't think of Venom without thinking of Slayer.
Refuse Planet is one of my absolute favourite records!
In my opinion neither crust punk or hardcore has anything to do with metal,altough it can be very metal sounding when they slow down.
That is why some make a difference between crust punk and neocrust because neocrust has a strong black metal influence.
And then they make a difference between old school hardcore and new school hardcore.
Old school is just fast punk while old school or metalcore is slow metal riffing, sometimes with rapping instead of singing.
But I think metal and punk has influenced each other through the years.
Also hardcore was called thrash punk in the beginning.
I guess it must be up to the board what we should post where,because there seems to be a thousand subgenres and a thousand opinions on what everyone of them means.
Everything is so confusing nowadays that I don't seem to know anything anymore.
People think I'm an idiot when I'm using old expressions from the eighties.
I think it might be illegal to call it metalcore nowadays,but here is some bands I enjoy:
Axel Grease, you have my musical brain engaged now! For those who have some background on power chords (and those who don't) here is an introduction on what he is speaking of.
I listened to Kid Rock, went back to Limp Bizkit, then listened to Linkin Park, and they are defiantly real, giving voice to what is felt by millions, worldwide. I NEVER would have heard these bands on my own, quickly by passing them. My first week here has broaden me musically and lyrically.
Music might seem pessimistic now but remember the world the coming of age crowd is inheriting; fear of mortal death, fear of blood, fear of sex that possibly brings both. Most I see now, grew up in an age where experimentation was without risk of suffering or death and cannot understand the alienation and pre-occupation with technology and its virtual worlds that the youth worldwide live in. The bands you selected Axel speak openly... Anything else you want to add will be appreciated.
Here is another one of the same type. This one is used frequently in UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) ringside music. You know, when someone is just about to get a a** whooping? LOL
Clutch - Spacegrass (1995), Tool - Lateralus (Lyrics), The Empire Shall Fall - We The People
BigSwede,
So much of the music from the divergent limbs of the musical tree come from punk or connect through punk. Like you said ...
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Also hardcore was called thrash punk in the beginning.
We can see the intensity and commitment of the punk band's songs from beginning to end...
what strikes me is that the identical passion shows up in Metal and Hardcore, passionate lyrics and committed musicians...
I understand your reference as Metalcore and appreciate you sharing not only your views but why your position is taken. It makes for a rich exchange. Thank you.
Axel Grease, Saliva's Click Click Boom was every bit as dynamic as the others you selected Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock and Linkin Park, to listen for
Metal-like power cords, that is fast pace, and in Saliva's case almost rapping oppose to singing. These four songs from four different bands demonstrated your point clearly. Thank you for taking out the time to explain it.
Jim! ...some songs picked for us to share a "Genie" moment!
Lyrics at Youtube
... Take the power back. This is our time. Let them fear us, our numbers, our strength. Let them fear us, Fear a revolution. Damaged us deliberately...
Time almost up but enjoy.
Peace All.
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yes I agree that it started it all and am happy you accept Hardcore. Do you have any favorites in that subgenre? Crust lovers get off on the bassy, fast pace tempo and guttural vocals, the tempo also changes to slow. My exposure was through Venom and I can't think of Venom without thinking of Slayer.
Clutch - Spacegrass (1995), Tool - Lateralus (Lyrics), The Empire Shall Fall - We The People
