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Old 11-05-2010, 04:37 PM
 
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Yeah, old school "golden age" hip hop was insanely good. Somewhere along the line hip lost its edge and "realness" and gave in to the almighty dollar. Old school hip hop like this is just plain brilliant....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRrM6tfOHds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiOcVWQY2bc
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:42 PM
 
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Well I still don't get it. Rap videos aren't really any more "misogynist" than many others, and I'd rather watch a bunch of hootchie mommas than two naked sweaty guys. But then I just really don't get wrestling (or football for that matter) - to me watching two big sweaty naked guys beat hell out of each other is still just watching two big sweaty naked guys.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=347M0hcgjcw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-h67MBJry4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUXuhmEsUIU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYwdiUPFRCg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgXlUxDGFvU
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:54 PM
 
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i love this video and song.

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Old 11-05-2010, 07:18 PM
 
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Well I still don't get it. Rap videos aren't really any more "misogynist" than many others, and I'd rather watch a bunch of hootchie mommas than two naked sweaty guys. But then I just really don't get wrestling (or football for that matter) - to me watching two big sweaty naked guys beat hell out of each other is still just watching two big sweaty naked guys.
As an aside, I'm eye to eye with you, for the large part, on the allure of spectator sports.

I think rap videos are more overtly misogynist towards women as opposed to objectifying them....but music in general is no saint, you're absolutely right.

And when you look at the top notch, scientific research performed by Dr. Dre and Dogg, you can definitely see they have put a lot of time and effort into the way they apply their misogynist theories.



And Eazy-E explains the procedure for rolling down the street in your 6-4.



On a more serious note, I ran across this study on Gangsta Misogyny published by the Journal of Criminal Justice and Popular Culture while looking up those tongue-in-cheek diagrams. There are a few telling, if dated, diagrams in that study as well.

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Old 11-05-2010, 11:21 PM
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYjZK...eature=related
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Old 11-06-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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Yeah, old school "golden age" hip hop was insanely good. Somewhere along the line hip lost its edge and "realness" and gave in to the almighty dollar. Old school hip hop like this is just plain brilliant....
True. But that sad part about it is that Rap is not a big money maker for the average artist signed to a big record label these days.

Your Favorite Rapper is Poor: One-Hit Wonder Edition - Refined Hype

Most Platinum selling recording Rap artists are very broke in real life. The videos are just high budget trash meant to brainwash the youth. Mainstream Rap today is corporate funded, profited and coached by Viacom and other such evil corporations. That's why it sucks today.
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Old 11-06-2010, 02:46 PM
 
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True. But that sad part about it is that Rap is not a big money maker for the average artist signed to a big record label these days.

Your Favorite Rapper is Poor: One-Hit Wonder Edition - Refined Hype

Most Platinum selling recording Rap artists are very broke in real life. The videos are just high budget trash meant to brainwash the youth. Mainstream Rap today is corporate funded, profited and coached by Viacom and other such evil corporations. That's why it sucks today.
This is hilarious. The music business is no different than the rest of the world. The people who flash the most often have the least! Well over 30 years between these two vids and they dress and look virtually as identical as Father Time will allow them to. They have enough loot to buy and sell all these other clowns 10X over too! That's The Way I Wanna Rock-N-Roll!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1iR2Wi3u5o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrOQNJNzD1g&feature=relatedhttp
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Old 11-06-2010, 02:46 PM
 
Location: The Bay and Maryland
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I think rap videos are more overtly misogynist towards women as opposed to objectifying them....
I love Hip Hop. But I feel like Chris Rock always trying to defend it as Art to those who don't understand it...



Ultimately, Mainstream Rap isn't about deep messages anymore; it's about getting drunk, getting high, getting some p*ssy, dancing your arse off in the club and generally having an irresponsible fun time. That's the reason why young Black folks continue to support Mainstream Rap to this day. If you can't fathom an understanding of a good time, you're probably no fun to be around.





What young single person doesn't like to go out and party, dance, drink, smoke weed occasionally (or everyday) and be around very attractive members of the opposite sex?

Who knows, when young White folks get older and music gets exponentially worse in the future, they might actually appreciate Gucci Mane and Waka Flocka years from now when Black kids stop listening to them. That's usually how it works.

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008...en-to-anymore/

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Old 11-06-2010, 03:14 PM
 
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Here are a few more........ "how about I actually buy that cool ride for you New guys"? "One stipulation..... you park it for me when I want to drive it"! "I ain't no valet dog"! "Could have fooled us"! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e4bq...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHDA5nHlDrQ

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Old 11-06-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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I love Hip Hop. But I feel like Chris Rock always trying to defend it as Art to those who don't understand it...



Ultimately, Mainstream Rap isn't about deep messages anymore; it's about getting drunk, getting high, getting some p*ssy, dancing your arse off in the club and generally having an irresponsible fun time. That's the reason why young Black folks continue to support Mainstream Rap to this day. If you can't fathom an understanding of a good time, you're probably no fun to be around.





What young single person doesn't like to go out and party, dance, drink, smoke weed occasionally (or everyday) and be around very attractive members of the opposite sex?

Who knows, when young White folks get older and music gets exponentially worse in the future, they might actually appreciate Gucci Mane and Waka Flocka years from now when Black kids stop listening to them. That's usually how it works.

#116 Black Music that Black People Don’t Listen to Anymore « Stuff White People Like
there is nothing wrong with real hip hop.

However you can't deny there are overly misogynistic lyrics and images in rap videos today.(not to mention fluffy pop music -- and I use the word music loosely)

Video clips for songs like Sexy *****, are basically soft porn.

Calling women a ***** or a ho? Well thats all you deserve then boys.

As for so called pop music, well -- what can I say. Its crap. The day that Kesha got a record deal was a very sad day indeed.
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