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Old 01-27-2010, 05:43 PM
 
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ok this is kinda response to the 2010's music
well,the 2010-2019 is bound to have artists in my age group(i'm 15 now so i guess up till the kids that are 20 now)
i think my gen is really gonna do good stuff with music.people think we all like the horrible ****ty crap on radio now but a lot us like classic rock and more experimental things.if anything it's only because the people in the media now are all these older people who are stuck on some 80's type get rich and have a good time bull crap and if you wanna fit into the music biz you better be young,sexified,and materialistic.eventually my gen is going to start breaking in and changing things.we have a lot of true feelings i think are gonna bleed out.

i think there is going to be a big backlash against the materialsticness.it doesn't fit with people my age.were by no means blessed with money.if anything we gotta heavy load.from the horrid economy,global warming,the endless war,and so on i think this really going to start being placed in music.i think we have the means to start a musical revolution.in wasy that would be so different.we could be this genreless generation.musicians ranging from metal to blues to punk all united by the internet,but more importantly a movement.everyone my age has gone through the same stuff,reguardless of musical taste.this inludes

A)wondering if the sun is going to melt us to death
B)not identifying with the medias "perfect cookie cutter" image
c) having economic issues
d)the war

these are all things really shaping people my age.believe me i've talked to a lot of people,this how we feel.it's the media that tries to brain wash us with the party music that is supposed to coax us.i can't even blame ke$ha that much for putting out her crap,because they honoestly would never market her if she wrote a song about stopping the war or the economy.it's all this facade of"now there's no war.everything is ok.go party" which isn't even relevant to most kids my age because our money goes to the gas bill.because dad lost his job.and trying to get a job at mc donalds means competing with middle aged people who are more qualified and aren't going to school.these are the issues we have and we deal with.all the music today is made by the rich for the rich.theres no meaning when all you do is blow money out of boredom.but with people my age there might be more substance.there are more struggles and feelings.heck all of us are now mostly middle to working class.we know life.and we know "shots" doesn't represent it.how about a song about the feeling of going to elementary school scared about the terror level every day?thats a song people my age can make.we know it we felt it.

also there are some good people out there making music but the media doesn't promote them

1) the white stripes made some of the best rock.they mixed blues and alternative and made really good stuff.the media stopped caring after 02,but they did maintain good record sales a lot of which were from teens my age.
2)same for the black keys
3)amy winehouse brought back a jazz/funk doo wop sound to pop music.that to me was a real break through.she also had meaningful songs,with relevance to human emotions.unfortunately she is rembered now as being a crack head thanks to the media.


also i think my gen's music will be great in variety but i think classic rock is gong to be a really big influence.from guitar hero making it relvant,he promotion of the beatles in 2009,to youtube spreading classic rock.one day take a lookat a doors vid or a janis joplin vid.see the comments from people my age saying"omg i love this music,it's my inspiration"

even right now there is somewhat of a psychedelic movement with bands such as the floorians,the black lips,the animals collective,and the asteroid#4.

also another artist i noticed was never shout never.i never really listened till the other day but he actually plays an instrument and sings with meaning. he's very big on myspace now and i think that shows a lot.
and i mean i never listen to too much modern stuff.i'm really deep in classic rock,my favs. being led zeppelin,janis joplin,the doors,the rolling stones,jefferson airplane,eric burdon &the animals,and a lot more.


so i think my gen can positively shape music.
This is what I have been suggesting for years. Expert guitar playing and deeply written songs are making a huge come back. There are several modern guitarists that have mastered it. Here is two of them. Sure they are a lot older than you both 32, but it is inevitable what will become of them. They are already influencing people your age!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0NtFlNPRiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyEdUajXBsI
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Whiting Indiana
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i heard of those two befoe.they are good.they should be on tv more than ahlf the toher crap....

has anyone ever heard of semi precious weapons

well there a band getting alot of fame internet wise for having brought back the whole glam thing
they're getting really fmaous actually
an dthey'll proally have a break through soon
their lyrics are still a lil eh to me
but they actually play instruments
and the lead signer sings really good
no auto tune crap
and they do have that 70's glam new york dolls sound
just saying classic rock is becoming mroe relevant
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:33 AM
 
Location: in the southwest
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I think the biggest thing that is happening to this 'generation' of music is that many people are simply TURNING OFF MTV. I've noticed a lot more street huskers, bluegrass(ish) acoustic players, melodic songwriters and multi instrument groups that sound wonderful. Kids need to turn off the radio, turn off the tv and start listening to real music, not this prefabricated junk.

I've also noticed that more kids in the teen range are starting to recognize classical music and compositions as a whole. My younger brother (age 17) got into my car a few weeks ago and noticed that I was playing Handel. I was amazed.

I'm actually quite excited about music right now, but it's not going to be on tv or the radio.
Yeah.
Jersey Shore is fun (in a threw-up-in-my-mouth sort of way), but in terms of music, when was the last time MTV was relevant, let alone cutting edge?
Maybe 1987? Perhaps I exaggerate, but not much.
It is the same with most print media.
OTOH, MTV owns Harmonix, maker of Rock Band.
It all becomes so murky and mercenary.
Radio/TV offers the result of a corporatization (is that a word?) of carefully marketed music.
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has anyone ever heard of semi precious weapons

well there a band getting alot of fame internet wise for having brought back the whole glam thing
Semi Precious Weapons almost seem like a satire of the New York Dolls, but I like their sound.
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Whiting Indiana
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i fi was italian i'd hate jersey shore more,but i still hate it.i mean it's not relevant to all italians,but it projects the image that they are all like that.being mexican i feel this way.i mean i'm from northern indiana and this place is just a dump of people from all walks of life who've come here to work at still mills.i mean the mexican sterotypes are extremely irrelevant to mexicans from this area.in fact my parents and their friends all being from gary(MJ reppn) during the 60's-70's grew up with a mix of puertorican/mexican and black people.my parents don't even know how to speak spanish.my parents and their friends all listen to black 60's and 70's soul R&B.so when people start to pull out that beaner crap i say NO,we are proud to be mexican but don't put te illiterate lazy sterotype on us.my great grandparents came here worked in steel factories during the war,learned english,and enstilled that in my grandparents and my parnets.that's orur history.sure we our americanized but we have hell of a story.and if there was some show about mexicans portraying a negative sterotype i'd be pissed for that reason..........whew sorry rant lol

mtv still shows music?when.i thought the M was for mindless.
also my grandpa worked with joe jackson and said he was lazy bastard.just thought i'd say that.
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Yeah.
Jersey Shore is fun (in a threw-up-in-my-mouth sort of way), but in terms of music, when was the last time MTV was relevant, let alone cutting edge?
Maybe 1987? Perhaps I exaggerate, but not much.
It is the same with most print media.
OTOH, MTV owns Harmonix, maker of Rock Band.
It all becomes so murky and mercenary.
Radio/TV offers the result of a corporatization (is that a word?) of carefully marketed music.

Semi Precious Weapons almost seem like a satire of the New York Dolls, but I like their sound.
I think you'd be surprised about MTV.... they influence nearly everything in music. I've been involved in the music industry for quite some time and have quite a few friends that are on major labels. It's not just the 'music' but the culture that they're influencing. They invest in clothing companies, record labels, perfumes/colognes, nightclubs etc etc and are basically telling people what they should like and dislike. Unfortunately, people fall for it hook line and sinker.

Music wise are they cutting edge? No. They regurgitate what is popular and saturate the media so they can get their cut before the band/popstar inevitably fizzles out, but by that time they already have a few people waiting in the wings to take over.

I actually did quite a few papers on MTV and generational music and culture while getting my college degree (Music Theory and Composition). Of course, I also did a 5 page report comparing the musical styles of Eminem and the noveau bluegrass band Nickel Creek....ha.
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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If I want "thoughts" on the Iraq War, or any political or current topic, I can indulge in reading, news reports, what have you. I wouldn't be interested in listening about it in music. For a lot of people, music is an escape. I grew up during early "protest music", and although I liked some of those songs, their lyrics are not what I look back on with fondness. I don't want The Big Picture stuff, or politics, in my music (an exception is Edwin Star's "War"). But, then, if this is the direction music takes, it could very well "sound" very different.

Who really knows the future of music? Sounds and styles go through trends, too. Early-to-mid 90's, reggae influence was popular. Perhaps the future generation will discover some other cultural sound to import into our own. Where Top 40 Pop goes, just about anything down the road would be a big improvement over what has materialized in the last 10 years.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:30 PM
 
Location: in the southwest
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If I want "thoughts" on the Iraq War, or any political or current topic, I can indulge in reading, news reports, what have you. I wouldn't be interested in listening about it in music. For a lot of people, music is an escape. I grew up during early "protest music", and although I liked some of those songs, their lyrics are not what I look back on with fondness. I don't want The Big Picture stuff, or politics, in my music (an exception is Edwin Star's "War"). But, then, if this is the direction music takes, it could very well "sound" very different.
Of course music is an escape for some people--I like it for that, I can listen to Air France's Beach Party quite happily--but I appreciate think pieces, too.
It would not be necessary for a song to *explicitly* address our presence in Iraq to send a message. Sometimes it works better to capture a mood than an ideal. Maybe it is already out there and I have just missed it.
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Perhaps the future generation will discover some other cultural sound to import into our own.
Hasn't it already been happening?
I've been listening to a lot of that Desert Blues stuff.
But as you say, some other cultural tradition might find its way into modern music.
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I think you'd be surprised about MTV.... they influence nearly everything in music. I've been involved in the music industry for quite some time and have quite a few friends that are on major labels. It's not just the 'music' but the culture that they're influencing. They invest in clothing companies, record labels, perfumes/colognes, nightclubs etc etc and are basically telling people what they should like and dislike. Unfortunately, people fall for it hook line and sinker.
Oh, I'm not talking about relevance among people sitting on the couch who feel the need to watch and emulate MTV. But I'm probably not a good example, I hardly watch any TV whatsoever.
I can well understand MTV's influence, it's not unlike the kind of influence HGTV has on wannabe real estate developers.
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Music wise are they cutting edge? No. They regurgitate what is popular and saturate the media so they can get their cut before the band/popstar inevitably fizzles out, but by that time they already have a few people waiting in the wings to take over.
Yeah, seems to me they are not the first in the music industry to follow that business model, but they do take it to another level, don't they?
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I actually did quite a few papers on MTV and generational music and culture while getting my college degree (Music Theory and Composition). Of course, I also did a 5 page report comparing the musical styles of Eminem and the noveau bluegrass band Nickel Creek....ha.
What, no 35 page thesis comparing Gregorian chants to 40's era swing?
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