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Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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08-13-2012, 11:05 AM
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Location: NJ
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theatrical headline by CBS to slight Boy scout organization. OP lack of comments poses a subjective response to the article. One, the dramatic and slanted headline and two the occurence of a beaver attacking an casual swimmer.
All warm blooded animals can carry rabies.
Rabies can remain dormant for up to a year by some accounts. This is why rabies shots are required ASAP.
If you get a rabies infectionm, you die.
There is only one, possibly two documented cases of someone surviving rabies.
A women in NJ recently died of rabies.
Rabies vaccine has been reformualted to a concentrate that can be given as a shot in the arm. Tetnus and gamma globulin shots will accompany any rabies series of rabies shots. Previously, the rabies formulation was only availale in a large volume injection that had to be given IP, inter peritoneally/abdominally.
Rabies is a reportable disease and can only be given with consent of the state health dept.
Now back to that CBS antiboyscout headline. CBS attempted to equate the common 'stoning to death' practice, institutionalized in the middle east, to denegrate the scouts who oppose gay leadership and support the recent scouting award refusal by a name politico who just turned down the award because of the scouts position on gays.
The scouts used what was availbale to them to retain the beaver and reamin safe themselves for later medical examination of the animals brain. This was a life and death situation and the scouts prevented the beaver for infecting other animals and potentially other people.
The scouts stoning a beaver to death was not the headline!!
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08-13-2012, 07:22 PM
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Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Here is another beaver attack that had just happened on Aug. 2nd: Rabid beaver bites swimmer in Del. Water Gap park | PoconoRecord.com The story ran in the local paper two days later. It did not go into detail on how many time the swimmer was bitten or how they collected the rabid beaver. By the way; Pine Plains, NY is less than one hundred miles from the attack in the Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Center this other attack took place.
I thought that rabid animals were supposed to be afraid of the water? In both attacks the beavers attacked swimmers (the NY case stated that the swimmer was in the water). In the case of the attack that happened close to me; it was not clear if the swimmer was in the water or on land.
Forty or fifty years ago I had a muskrat come growling (hissing) after me in the same area. I was duck hunting at that time. I also had a raccoon attack me in the middle of the day – also while hunting ducks. Perhaps the ducks are spreading the disease – just kidding.
We tend not to think of water animals as rabies carriers. Beavers also have a pretty dangerous set of teeth – good enough to take down large trees.
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08-14-2012, 01:09 AM
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Location: Texas and Arkansas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fisheye
I thought that rabid animals were supposed to be afraid of the water?
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I think the "hydrophobia" comes from animals not being able to drink water so it seemed they were afraid of it to people watching the animals. I guess the beaver living most his life in water would confuse the subject.
However, I think I would stop duck hunting if I was you! 
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08-14-2012, 07:53 AM
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Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowdog
I think the "hydrophobia" comes from animals not being able to drink water so it seemed they were afraid of it to people watching the animals. I guess the beaver living most his life in water would confuse the subject.
However, I think I would stop duck hunting if I was you! 
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I did give up hunting many years ago! As a matter of fact; ducks are now our only pets and we currently have too many (they have been watching the rabbits multiply). We will be looking for somebody with a nice pond to take some of my wife's pets.
Traditionally we hear of rabies in foxes and skunks. Sometimes we hear of dogs and cats. I don't think that we hear of too many bat cases anymore – maybe because there are not as many bats? I have never heard of a bear with rabies – that would be a scary prospect. I never thought of beavers with rabies – even though I had that one run in with a muskrat. I presume that an animal, such as a fox, bit the beaver? I am curious if fox would normally prey on beaver? I would think that beaver would normally put up a pretty good fight against any fox.
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08-14-2012, 09:09 AM
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Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kracer
theatrical headline by CBS to slight Boy scout organization. OP lack of comments poses a subjective response to the article. One, the dramatic and slanted headline and two the occurence of a beaver attacking an casual swimmer.
All warm blooded animals can carry rabies.
Rabies can remain dormant for up to a year by some accounts. This is why rabies shots are required ASAP.
If you get a rabies infectionm, you die.
There is only one, possibly two documented cases of someone surviving rabies.
A women in NJ recently died of rabies.
Rabies vaccine has been reformualted to a concentrate that can be given as a shot in the arm. Tetnus and gamma globulin shots will accompany any rabies series of rabies shots. Previously, the rabies formulation was only availale in a large volume injection that had to be given IP, inter peritoneally/abdominally.
Rabies is a reportable disease and can only be given with consent of the state health dept.
Now back to that CBS antiboyscout headline. CBS attempted to equate the common 'stoning to death' practice, institutionalized in the middle east, to denegrate the scouts who oppose gay leadership and support the recent scouting award refusal by a name politico who just turned down the award because of the scouts position on gays.
The scouts used what was availbale to them to retain the beaver and reamin safe themselves for later medical examination of the animals brain. This was a life and death situation and the scouts prevented the beaver for infecting other animals and potentially other people.
The scouts stoning a beaver to death was not the headline!!
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08-14-2012, 01:07 PM
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Location: San Diego
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A Beaver could jack you up with those chompers. I've seen one bite through a 1 inch branch with one chomp of those razor sharp teeth. A Beaver would shred a Fox for sure.
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08-14-2012, 02:06 PM
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Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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I saw absolutely noting in the article to make me think of Middle East stoning, BSA stance on gays or anything other than a story about how a rabid beaver attacked a swimmer and the boys killed it.
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08-14-2012, 02:13 PM
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Location: Not where I want to be
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Seems to me I recall stories of the white man stoning people for punishment back in history. Most of the civilized world has stopped that kind of punishment though.
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08-14-2012, 06:15 PM
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Location: West Egg
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